- Mark: If Holcroft s Battery was the only Royal Artillery unit in Upper Canada in 1813/14 (which I can easily believe), it might have been parcelled out over aMessage 1 of 3 , Dec 31, 1969View SourceMark:
If Holcroft's Battery was the only Royal Artillery unit in Upper Canada in
1813/14 (which I can easily believe), it might have been parcelled out over
a very wide area indeed.
Procter's Right Division had a small number of RA under a junior officer at
the batteries at Fort Meigs in May 1813, for example. The main batteries
were on the north bank of the Maumee River, and that's where the officer
perforce stayed. A small secondary battery was put on the south shore in
an attempt to create a cross-fire, but American records show that most
rounds fired from this battery entirely missed the Fort. This is amazing,
as it's a BIG fort and the battery position was not that far from it! The
Americans even speculated that the person in charge was secretly an
American sympathizer, deliberately sabotaging the battery's fire. But the
true explanation appears to be that the officer put in charge of this
battery was an enthusiastic amateur and not a trained gunner!
The ranks of the Artillery and Engineers were filled out with militiamen
and regular infantrymen. Officers from the regular infantry were appointed
to command batteries etc. The few RA and RE officers who *were* in Upper
Canada were all very junior. A heavy responsibility was put on them, which
they discharged to the best of their ability. A heavy responsibility was
also put on NCO's of the RA, who could find themselves put in charge of ad
hoc gun crews, etc.
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- Couple of comments Mark. First off, cool crest!! There was no doubt that Holcroft s company was withdrawn to replce its numbers. Almost every gunner wasMessage 2 of 3 , Nov 29, 2004View SourceCouple of comments Mark. First off, cool crest!! There was no doubt that
Holcroft's company was withdrawn to replce its numbers. Almost every gunner
was killed, wounded or captured. They fought well, as did the 21st who
captured the guns from then and the First who went up the hill thinking they
were out numbered at least 10 to 1.
I wonder if "NIAGARA" was granted to them for the campaign. The date that
it is issued is the date all others receive the battle honour. (perhaps that
should be Niagara Day?) but through tradition and lore it became Fort
There were militia artillery. I don't have the stuff in front of me, but
off the top of my head I know Lincoln (Niagara area) had a coy of arty,
Norlfolk (I think) had one Montreal had one (that apparently had a really
great commissary of its own!) If you like I can try to make a list for you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ibbotson" <ibbo@...>
The company was at Lundy's Lane and was shortly afterwards was withdrawn
from service (no doubt to replenish its numbers).
The company was granted the title 'NIAGARA' on Tuesday 1 October 1816 by His
Royal Highness the Prince Regent (on behalf of the King) for service during
the campaign. (which contradicts the 1813 on the motif)
BUT i find this slightly too much, surely other Artillery was knocking about
perhaps militia or some other.