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  • john harris
    ... From: john harris To: Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: John s Being Bitchie ! ... has ...
    Message 1 of 1 , Aug 29, 2003
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "john harris" <jharris@...>
      To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:25 PM
      Subject: John's Being Bitchie !


      > > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:42:43 -0000
      > > From: "Gord_1812" <gord_1812@...>
      > > Subject: Re: US/UK Crown Forces
      > >
      > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "usmarine1814" <usmarine1812@a...>
      > > wrote:
      > > > Is the recent collection of Unit names and info and the increased
      > > > references to these "forces" perhaps the begining of umbrella
      > > > groups. I dont mind personally I think it could be good for the
      > > >1812 hobby for communication and coordination purposes.
      > >
      > > Personally I think a more informal coordination between units is
      > > best. I shudder when I read the word umbrella . I think the
      > > individually of units is what makes this hobby interesting.
      >
      > NEWSFLASH PEOPLE !! - Whether you like it /realize it/ condone it , we
      > already have an umbrella organization in place !!! OH MY GOD !!! LET THE
      > HEAVEN'S RAIN DOWN FIRE AND BLOW OUR ASHES LIKE USED KLENEX IN THE WIND!!
      > The only difference is, there are no dues, each individual group still
      has
      > their own autonomy with regards to authenticity levels, and what event's
      > they wish to participate in .
      > Look , it's really a very simple process here . Depending on where you
      are
      > in the continent ; ( that's THIS continent not that OTHER one where people
      > seem to think all the real things that pretain to this list really took
      > place, [ hey I told you I was being real bitchie here ] , and really have
      no
      > bearing on an 1812 list ) , there are people that are reconized by various
      > historic site's/ organizations , as having 1) experiance with either the
      > site/organzation/town, etc.
      > 2) RESPECT within the reenactment community as to their
      > leadership skills , knowledge ,experiance, deportment , and past history
      in
      > relation to being a "leader".
      > 3) Have SHOWN that they can do the job, not just put on a
      > uniform . For anyone who experianced the early '80's in ACW , there was an
      > incredable amount of peacock's strutting around in charge BECAUSE THEY HAD
      > THE OFFICER'S UNIFORM !! No knowledge, but they had the uniform!! I'm
      quite
      > sure the same thing happened in AWI and F&I , that's how umbrella
      > organizations started in a nutshell . You want to be an officer/NCO and be
      > in charge , you better know your sh*t !
      >
      >
      >
      > > Some of us love to do drill. Some just want to dress up an look nice.
      > > Some just want to talk to the public.
      >
      > To each is his own, as long as you know the drill and are safe , if that's
      > what your group does, who am I to say anything , ( under most
      > circumstances )
      >
      >
      > > My fear is that a "umbrella" group would kill the individuality of
      > > seprate units. You all know my view of the Crown Forces idea.
      > > It's a great way to coordinate events and battles, BUT lets keep it a
      > > hobby and not a job.
      >
      > Umbrella group, see above.
      > Crown Forces , when we play on their side , we conform to the standard
      that
      > is expected.
      > Hobby , yes, Job, no . However we have gone back to work to get a good
      rest
      > after a real hard weekend!! ;^)
      >
      >
      > > >I also believe in
      > > > authenticity standards, but many feel this may be a "slippery
      > > slope".
      > >
      > > Authenticity standards are good to a point! Just remeber a lot of us
      > > do the hobby for recreation. I'm the first to suggest that someone
      > > put that Coke in a period mug or hide a cooler. But I'll be the first
      > > to tell a " authenticity standards cop" to bugger off if he/she
      > > tells me my tent is to big for my rank or that I have to replace my
      > > air mattress with straw. Or my boots have to be replaced with brogans.
      >
      > Authenticity standards are the reponsibility of the individual group,
      unless
      > it is otherwise specified by either a historic site or an organizer of an
      > event. If they say no police boot's, I guess you'll have to go barefoot or
      > get a pair of proper boots. As someone who has been called a "Farb Nazi"
      in
      > the past I actually have mellowed a bit in my years . Now unless it's
      really
      > blatant , I don't give a crap . When I want real authentic atmosphere , I
      do
      > 20th century events .
      >
      > > (don't laugh) It happened to me at a F&I event at FT. Ticondroga
      > > (SP?) ((I never went back!))
      > >
      > > Gord
      >
      > Gord, as your former C.O. , I have to laugh ! How many years have you worn
      > your top hat at Rev War once a year ? However, this year when I asked you
      to
      > not wear it, you changed it . If you can do it here, why not a little
      > something for 1812? Just a thought.
      >
      > I will now get off the soapbox and await your reprisal's . My tin lid is
      by
      > the computer !!
      > Regards
      > John Harris
      > 25th US Infantry, Whiting's Company
      > 42nd Reg't , Grenadier Company
      >
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