Re: [WarOf1812] Re: new orleans news
- In a message dated 9/5/2002 10:19:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
> What is a more proper term than stating "The Battle of New Orleans" ?Well, when most people say 'Battle of NO' they mean the battle on the 8th not
> Would "The New Orleans Campaign" be more proper? I suppose that "the
> battle of New Orleans" pops out of the mouth a little more easier, though
> we know there were more than one battle.
the campaign but personally I prefer 'campaign'. After all that's what it was.
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We probably use the term "Battle of New Orleans" rather than the"New
Orleans campaign" because of the influence of a Mr. Horton who
presented a colourful but inaccurate version of events some years ago.
It all happened after the war was over so it is acedemic anyway. -:)
I am, of course, joking.
- From: "ANDREW S BATEMAN" <abateman@...>
Recreations of actual battles are cool, but the fly in the ointment as far
as 1812 is concerned is numbers. You know, "1812... 18 on one side,
12 on the other!"
I must agree with Andrew, as Narrator at battles, I stand with the
and some of the historic battles recreations look real dumb! Cavalry
with no cavalry, battles that have troops climbing up a hill with musket
down on them being recreated on a flat field, again ..... you get the
The other fly in the ointment is distance, a lot won't or can't take the
work or afford to travel long distances. As I posted earlier, a two day
a two day drive back, three days there, that's seven days and that is not
bad winter into the picture. New Orleans is 21 hours, 29 minutes being
from my house. This being an hour from Toronto where the majority of the
A suggestion would be to obtain corporate sponsorship, co-ordinate a 'coming
event and subsidise a tour (something like Waterloo), now you will get a
load of red coats and a New Orleans Festival will happen. You could even
this biggie every 5 years ............!
I do not want to be a harbinger of doom, with the opposing lines New Orleans
surely will grow. But, if the numbers are low, don't try to do the Battle of
- --- In WarOf1812@y..., "Larry Lozon" <lalozon@n...> wrote:
> From: "ANDREW S BATEMAN" <abateman@f...>Here's how the ACW boys do it.
> A suggestion would be to obtain corporate sponsorship
Ready, aim, sell: Corporate sponsors enlisted for Civil War event
Source: The Associated Press
Sep 5, 2002 15:18
HAGERSTOWN, Md. (AP) _ And now, the slaughter at Bloody Lane, brought
to you by F&M Bank.
Corporate sponsors and 13,000 Civil War buffs will come together next
week to re-enact the bloodiest day on U.S. soil, the Battle of
For the first time at such an event, three of the nearly 40
participating companies are exclusive sponsors of specific
In addition to the fighting at Bloody Lane, where 5,500 men were
killed or wounded, spectators can watch the daybreak clash in the
Cornfield, sponsored by Antietam Cable, and the afternoon arrival of
Confederate Gen. A.P. Hill's men _ presented through the courtesy of
The sponsors also include the investment bank Salomon Smith Barney,
PepsiCo and Allegheny Energy, a Fortune 500 company headquartered
near the re-enactment site, 400 privately owned hectares about 110
kilometres north of Washington, D.C. 16 kilometres from the real
Never have so many corporations been part of a Civil War re-
enactment, and never so visibly, though their representatives will be
stationed in a sponsors' tent near the entrance gate, and logos will
not be allowed on the battlefield.
Glenn LeBoeuf, Salomon Smith Barney's representative at the Sept. 13-
15 event, said it is an opportunity to reach prospective clients he,
as a former re-enactor, knows well.
During his 13 years playing a private in the 3rd New Jersey Volunteer
Infantry, ``I never got a chance to talk about investment portfolios
while I was in camp because it was inappropriate to do so,'' LeBoeuf
said. He is hopeful the re-enactors won't mind talking business at
the corporate tent.
His company is paying $1,000 US to have LeBoeuf there.
Event organizers say sponsors' dollars and in-kind donations,
totalling more than $140,000, will help them stage more realistic
clashes and raise more money for battlefield preservation.
``Our corporate sponsors understand the commemorative nature of this
event and its solemn and respectful nature,'' said Dennis Frye, co-
chairman of the organizing committee.
And there is no indication of any resentment on the part of the re-
enactors, who are such sticklers for authenticity that some have been
known to count the threads on their uniforms to make sure the fabric
is historically accurate. Some say the corporate backing is needed to
keep down the costs of admission: $10 to $25 for re-enactors, $17 per
day for adult spectators.
``It's just another way for them to make money,'' said Don Harrelson,
of Virginia Beach, Va., who is president of the American Living
History Society and will portray a member of the 3rd Georgia
George Lomas, an organizer of next summer's 140th re-enactment of the
1863 Gettysburg battle _ the turning point in the Civil War _ said
his group is lining up big corporate sponsors, too. Milestone
anniversaries of key Civil War engagements are ``mega-events,''
requiring much more preparation than a typical annual re-enactment,
``It's a lot more expensive, and there's a lot more exposure for the
corporate people who want to be sponsors, as well,'' Lomas said.
The Antietam event will include four major fight scenarios and 100
pieces of artillery with Hollywood-quality pyrotechnics.
The sunup-to-sundown battle waged on Sept. 17, 1862, along the banks
of Antietam Creek near Sharpsburg, Md., left at least 6,300 soldiers
dead and 17,000 more wounded or missing.
The marketing opportunities were revealed by the
135th-anniversary Antietam re-enactment in 1997, which stunned its
promoters by drawing 12,000 re-enactors and more than 70,000
spectators over three days _ numbers surpassed only by the 135th
Gettysburg anniversary the following July.
The last Antietam re-enactment before that, in 1987, attracted just
6,000 combatants. During the intervening years, Ken Burns' television
documentary The Civil War and the 1993 movie Gettysburg led to a
surge in interest in the Civil War.
For the re-enactors at Antietam, this year's battle is ``equivalent
to the Super Bowl or the Masters tournament,'' said Robert Arch, co-
chairman of the event. ``This is basically the top of the line.''
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- In a message dated 05/9/02 8:39:29 PM, BritcomHMP@... writes:
<< Well, when most people say 'Battle of NO' they mean the battle on the 8th
the campaign but personally I prefer 'campaign'. After all that's what it
I've also seen it as, "Siege of New Orleans", but I agree with Tim that
"Campaign of" is probably closer to the mark.
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