Re: [WarOf1812] The Battle of Longwoods Event
- In a message dated 5/10/02 11:36:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Provincial MarinesHuh!
Shouldn't it have been Provincial Marine (singular)?
Ed Seufert, LCpl
1812 Royal Marines
1st Co/2nd Batt RM
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> To cplwattie et all:Why not? My suggestion was that you read off the participants as they
> it don't work that way .........
march past: what's the problem? If the Provincial Marine (note
singular) is fallen in with the Newfs (heavens forfend!) announce the
Royal Nfld. Regt followed closely by the Provincial Marine(s).
IMUC is not easy to miss in a crowd - they don't call us Heavy
Infantry for nothing - so I'm assuming you recognize us. Lord knows
there's enough of us. If you don't we'd be happy to fly a flag, send
up a flare or sing an appropriate tune to identify ourselves (our
favourite is the "Flying Monkeys March" from Wizard of Oz, but we do
You can usually spot the Norfolks by the not insubstantial presence
of the redoubtable Larry Hanna.
The 89th are the ones looking somewhat the worse for drink.
I could go on, but the point is why not introduce the identifiable
units by name? You did for some (the Royal Scots, the 10th Royal
Veterans and I think the King's 8th), why not for all?
> And, Gents that is exactly what I read off. If youThis may surprise you, but it is possible to march and do other
> didn't hear some that means you were doing what
> you were supposed to be doing. Following your
> Officers and NCO s and listening for commands.
things at the same time. Mainly we use this excess brain capacity to
grumble or dream up cruel pranks to play on the officers, but we do
also listen to the play-by-play ...
- From: "gord_1812" <gord1812@...>
Wouldn't the anouncer be on duty and have to
wear issue head dress?
Documentation tells us that the 1st Regiment Kent
were allotted green wool, but receipt of uniforms cannot be documented.
The 41st transferred Officers and NCOs to the Kents, and as well during
the capture of Detroit some were issued cast off 41st's coats. Thus the
Kents went into battle with a mish-mash of civilian and military kit. My kit
was a civilian hat (documented from 1779-1816) Upper Canada Militia
Sergeant's coat, 41st Regt. sash, grey wool trousers, grey wool gaiters,
buckled shoes-straight last. Which agrees with documentation on the Kents.
Now good, Sir, shall we inspect your kit to whether it meats the Warrant?
From: "gord_1812" gord1812@...
I registered as IMUC That's Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada
In the future if we aren't on the list look for green facings. (That's green
collar and sleeves) IMUC is the unit NOT the Society
MRSC is the Society.
I have been in this hobby since 1967 and know the IMUC,
That's Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada. If you read my earlier post
It states I only read off the list from the event co-ordinators and don't
for facing colours. Also green facings could be the 55th Reg. and many
as well ........
Having said this, I of course bow to your wisdom, and shall not speek
more of this matter.
- From: <easeufe@...>
> > Provincial Marines______________
> Shouldn't it have been Provincial Marine (singular)?
Yes Edward, and that was my point, I received a list and read it.
But, in fact there were three Provincial Marine Gun Crews
so that could be construed as "Marines" ............ :^)
- Hey folks, give Larry a break! He told you that he reads what he is
given. Is that such a hard concept to grasp. His is not the easiest
job, having to describe what is happening, especially when thing get off
of the planned action.
- --- In WarOf1812@y..., "Larry Lozon" <lalozon@n...> wrote:
> From: "gord_1812" <gord1812@n...>Regiment Kent
> Wouldn't the anouncer be on duty and have to
> wear issue head dress?
> Documentation tells us that the 1st
> were allotted green wool, but receipt of uniforms cannot be
> The 41st transferred Officers and NCOs to the Kents, and as wellduring
> the capture of Detroit some were issued cast off 41st's coats. Thusthe
> Kents went into battle with a mish-mash of civilian and militarykit. My kit
> was a civilian hat (documented from 1779-1816) Upper Canada Militiagaiters,
> Sergeant's coat, 41st Regt. sash, grey wool trousers, grey wool
> buckled shoes-straight last. Which agrees with documentation on theKents.
Thanks for the update.
> Now good, Sir, shall we inspect your kit to whether it meats the
>Sure anytime...You bring the beer.
- Point is, he did not ... some units are introduced as they march past
the crowd, some are not. Is doing it for all if its done for one such
a difficult concept?
> Hey folks, give Larry a break! He told you that he reads what he iseasiest
> given. Is that such a hard concept to grasp. His is not the
> job, having to describe what is happening, especially when thingget off
> of the planned action.
> Bob Dorian
> Now good, Sir, shall we inspect your kit to whether it meats theWarrant?
> ............Say what you will about Cpl. Mitchell, there's never any meat on his
kit. He devours almost all of it, and what few scraps are left over
his lapdog Tetley snaps up.
There's certainly none left over for any Warrant Officers.
(Bronze Medallist, Iron Loyalist Comp. '02)
- I find it unfortunate that some members of this list have nothing
better to do than criticize another reenactor's efforts at
Longwoods. Mr. Lozon cannot be expected to know the name of every
fly-by-night re-enactment group that appears at an event. Nor can he
be expected to know that the initials IMUC stand for the Volunteer
Battalion of Incorporated Militia of Upper Canada. If the members of
that unit wish its name read out, they should register with the
proper name of their unit not an acronym. As for identifying the
units as they march past, Larry almost always recognizes the Royal
Scots, as they come first in the column, and he usually recognizes
the 41st and the 8th and I've never heard him miss the "corps
Personally I find that Larry does as good a job as the announcer as
any reasonable person could expect Larry to do.