> From: Roger Fuller (not on the 1812 Yahoogroup)fixed
> You could be confusing the loading sequence with that of fixing
> swords, however, correct about the relative length of the Baker
> with an affixed sword vis-a-vis the India Pattern Musket with its own
> bayonet- when forming square, the procedure for riflemen is the same assword
> with muskets - drop to the right knee, rifle butt outward, barrel and
> facing up and outward at a 45 deg. angle, rifle butt at the base of theright
> knee. But if among themselves, riflemen did not form square, but insteadhad
> formed circle, as it was quicker.
> The sword is fixed on the rifle when it is at the order, same procedure
> as when fixing bayonets on a musket using the manual of arms in line
> infantry drill (see de Rottenburg's "Exercise for Light Infantry and
> Riflemen", 1799, British line infantry manual 1807/1811, adapted from
> Dundas' work of 1792).
> In de Rottenburg's manual, the rifle is clutched between the calves and
> knees, and the knees are slightly bent, when ramming down the ball during
> the loading and firing sequence in the standing position. De Rottenburg's
> manual is available for about US $20.00 from www.kingspress.com .
> The Barber and Cooper manuals, avail. from Parcs Canada and other
> sources, are interesting, but, since they were privately printed,
> inapplicable, as the Rifles and LI units in the British forces worldwide
> were, after 1808, permitted to use only two manuals: de Rottenburg's and
> the line infantry manual. This was done to avoid the utter confusion that
> existed among LI units in the AWI, who used different manuals and
> tactics, depending on who was commanding.
> I hope it wasn't any of my guys doing the knock-knees while fixing
> swords :^) But then again, with those India-made Bakers, somebody
> probably couldn't get the thing on -or off ..... we use the Rifle Shoppe
> Roger ~ 95th Rifles