US Artillery question
Does anyone know if the United States manufactured domestic versions
of the RN carronade? I've run across a reference to use (or planned
use) of 42 pdr. carronades on US row galleys on the Great Lakes in
Were these just another name for the heavy American "Columbiad" shell
gun? Did we have a large inventory of captured RN carronades to use?
- I believe the US manufactured both guns and carronades (I doubt that
captures could account for the numbers of carronades employed). The
columbiad was a US design intermediate between the two. Teddy
Roosevelt equates a long 12 to a columbiad 18 to a 32 pdr carronade,
when firing solid shot(he doesn't mention columbiads with shell). In
the balance of his book "The Naval War of 1812" columbiads don't seem
to be mentioned again. Perhaps they were used more in shore
batteries than in the navy.
Bob Malcomson (Warships of the Great Lakes) states that Macdonough's
use of some 18 pdr columbiads on Lake Champlain to be the only
documented use on the Great Lakes.
Teddy also stated that guns from US foundries were more likely to
burst than those of the British. I know that foundries in the
Canadas were not able to produce guns at all, primarily due to the
low grade of iron ore available to them, so that British ships on the
Great Lakes were armed exclusively by guns of British manufacture.
Hope this is of some help.
--- In WarOf1812@y..., nappingcrow@h... wrote:
> Does anyone know if the United States manufactured domestic
> of the RN carronade? I've run across a reference to use (or
> use) of 42 pdr. carronades on US row galleys on the Great Lakes in
> Were these just another name for the heavy American "Columbiad"
> gun? Did we have a large inventory of captured RN carronades to
> Brian S.
- It would make sense that they would copy the British design (use what
works) - I've just never seen them mentioned in the USN before this.
Thanks for the info on columbiads! I haven't been able to find out
much about them - so far the largest description I've seen has been
from Roger Sarty's "Coast Artillery 1815-1914". He says they
predated the War of 1812 by a few years, and were capable of firing
both solid shot and explosive shells before the invention of the
Paixhans gun. That, and they came in 50 and 100pdr sizes and were
used as coastal artillery, so they didn't sound like likely
candidates for widespread use by the navy.
I'm interested in the Congreve gun - where can I find out more?