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Re: Fw: Honoring A Traitor

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  • red.gold@sympatico.ca
    ... Schultz ; Dave Moore ; Lolli, Tony ; Bowers, Eric ; Leslie & Allen Barnett ; Jay T Angus ; Weber, Mike ; Slab ; James Quine ; Marta Isajiw ; Gene Felton ;
    Message 1 of 3 , Jul 24, 2001
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      --- In WarOf1812@y..., "Annette and Lloyd" <agower@b...> wrote:
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Gene Felton
      > To: Ann Knife Felton
      > Cc: Garth Felton
      > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:52 PM
      > Subject: Fw: Honoring A Traitor
      >
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Mark Bowling
      > To: Danny Stern ; Slattery, Mike ; Slabinski, Rusty ; Chief
      Schultz ; Dave Moore ; Lolli, Tony ; Bowers, Eric ; Leslie & Allen
      Barnett ; Jay T Angus ; Weber, Mike ; Slab ; James Quine ; Marta
      Isajiw ; Gene Felton ; Darling, Dave ; Sue Bramlet ; Traci Bennett ;
      Donna Aversa
      > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:48 PM
      > Subject: Fw: Honoring A Traitor
      >
      >
      >
      > > << HONORING A TRAITOR
      >
      > >
      >
      > > This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not
      >
      > > remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that
      >
      > > our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had
      >
      > > to bear.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of
      >
      > > the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and
      >
      > > still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda
      >
      > > betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific
      >
      > > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
      >

      WHAT THE...?!

      T.Avery
    • Cpl. Wattie
      Indeed. I thought from the title this might be about King Joe or Wm Lyon Mackenzie, or even Gen. Benedict Arnold. Imagine my surprise. What the hell s this
      Message 2 of 3 , Jul 25, 2001
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        Indeed. I thought from the title this
        might be about "King Joe" or Wm Lyon
        Mackenzie, or even Gen. Benedict
        Arnold. Imagine my surprise.
        What the hell's this got to do with the
        War of 1812 or re-enacting? Take it off
        the list please ...

        > WHAT THE...?!
        >
        > T.Avery
      • Annette and Lloyd
        ... From: Gene Felton To: Ann Knife Felton Cc: Garth Felton Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Fw: Honoring A Traitor ... From: Mark Bowling To:
        Message 3 of 3 , Jul 25, 2001
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          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Gene Felton
          To: Ann Knife Felton
          Cc: Garth Felton
          Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:52 PM
          Subject: Fw: Honoring A Traitor



          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Mark Bowling
          To: Danny Stern ; Slattery, Mike ; Slabinski, Rusty ; Chief Schultz ; Dave Moore ; Lolli, Tony ; Bowers, Eric ; Leslie & Allen Barnett ; Jay T Angus ; Weber, Mike ; Slab ; James Quine ; Marta Isajiw ; Gene Felton ; Darling, Dave ; Sue Bramlet ; Traci Bennett ; Donna Aversa
          Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:48 PM
          Subject: Fw: Honoring A Traitor



          > << HONORING A TRAITOR

          >

          > This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not

          > remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that

          > our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had

          > to bear.

          >

          > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of

          > the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and

          > still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda

          > betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific

          > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

          >

          > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's

          > name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former

          > Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo

          > Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking

          > cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean

          > PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American

          > "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd

          > received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged

          > away.

          >

          > During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the

          > camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

          > In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision

          > (which permanently ended his flying days) from the

          > Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

          > >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO

          > (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first

          > three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived

          > on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the

          > cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace

          > delegation" visit.

          > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to

          > the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a

          > tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of

          > his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman,

          > she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking

          > little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you

          > bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane

          > treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this

          > HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of

          > paper.

          >

          > She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of

          > the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the

          > shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer

          > in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three

          > men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was

          > almost number four but he survived, which is the only

          > reason we know about, her actions that day.

          >

          > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam,

          > and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in

          > South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent

          > 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in

          > Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My

          > North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and

          > murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in

          > Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle

          > near the Cambodian border.

          >

          > At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My

          > normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war

          > criminals."

          >

          > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp

          > communist political officer if I would be willing

          > to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to

          > tell her about the real treatment we POWs received

          > different from the treatment purported by the North

          > Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and

          > lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky

          > floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large

          > amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a

          > bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

          >

          > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a

          > couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she

          > would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer

          > me.

          >

          > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as

          > part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100

          > years of great women" should never include a traitor

          > whose hands are covered with the blood of so many

          > patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral

          > reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant

          > treason, is one of them.

          >

          > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you

          > possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer

          > and she needs to know that we will never forget




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