Stoney Creek Church Parade
- To all those attending Stoney Creek - June 1st - 3rd, 2001
I have been talking to the Rev. David Bish, Minister of the current
Stoney Creek United Church. This church is the continuing congregation
of the Methodist Chapel which was at the site of the original battle of
Stoney Creek in June 1813, and traces its origin back to 1791. The
current church is a large modern structure, situated some 600 metres to
the east of Battlefield Park.
The church is proud of its history, and when I suggested that some
1812 soldiers might turn up to his worship service on Sunday, June 3rd,
he was delighted.
This is a preliminary 'feeler' to see if an appropriate number would
be willing to participate in this. It would be a regular church
service, but our presence would be acknowledged, and the connections
between the church, the Gages etc. and the week-end would be
highlighted. We could march there from the Park - on the sidewalk, I
suggest, the middle of that busy road is not a safe place to be, and I
do not think we could get it closed for the occasion.
I think this would be a fine gesture on our part, and would also
reflect an important aspect of the social history of the War - soldiers
did go to church, y'know, and Methodism was 'rife' in the army. Some
officers and senior NCOs encouraged it too - kept the lads away from the
So, folks. Let me know what you think. I would like to get back to
David within the next week to confirm the arrangements.
PS: Larry L. wants tea and cookies on the church lawn afterwards! 'Tis
a thought... ;-}
PPS: I have talked to the staff at Battlefield Park, and they think it
is a great idea. The small ceremony at the Smith's Knoll will probably
not take place this year. They have heard nothing from the Legion about
PPPS: The Battlefield Park staff are in the process of completing their
documentation on community involvement in projects like the 1812
weekend. It all helps with funding of this important site. This would
Stoney Creek until recently was a separate city, but has now been incorporated into the city of Hamilton, Ontario. They are at the western end of Lake Ontario.
Access from the States is easiest across one of the bridges over the Niagara River, then follow the Queen Elizabeth Way (QEW) west until you come to the Highway 20 exit
(Confederation Drive). Take it south to King Street, and Battlefield Park is on the south east corner of the junction with King Street.
During the War of 1812 Hamilton was named Barton, and Stoney Creek was just that, a creek, in the township of Saltfleet.
Hope to see you at the reenactment. 'Tis a good one.
> Just wondering where Stoney Creek is? I'm from Maryland and there doesn't
> seem to be any reference to it's location. (I know I should probably know
> this...and I suspect I'll never forget it after someone tells me.)
> Tom Burke
> Ships Company
> The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of square miles...
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- Just wondering where Stoney Creek is? I'm from Maryland and there doesn't
seem to be any reference to it's location. (I know I should probably know
this...and I suspect I'll never forget it after someone tells me.)
- Dear Tom
Stoney Creek, Battlefield House, is located near to the west end of Lake
If you take a look on the map and locate the Niagara peninsula and Niagara
Falls, there is a main Highway (The Queen Elizabeth Way, or QEW) that runs
parallel to Lake Ontario from the border with the United States to the head
of the lake at Hamilton.
Just before you reach that point, there is Highway 20 (Centennial Parkway)
which runs south(away from the lake) towards the high ridge of the Niagara
escarpment. Just below the rising slope of the hillside is the location of
the Battle of Stoney Creek.
If you go on Yahoo / maps / and then punch in King St / stoney creek /
ontario / canada
you should get the map you need
Look for where King St crosses Hy 20 and zoom in. Find Battlefield Drive
and Highway 20, the land in between is the site.
Regards Richard Feltoe
- Hi. I have just joined the Forum this week, and thought the following
may be of interest to anyone interested in the naval side - at least,
to anyone who can get access to UK shops and to British readers in
County bookshops had on offer (I hear they are now going into
receivership?) great deals on publishers' remnants of the last of the
6-volume Chatham Pictoral Histories, from Chatham Publishing, on "The
Naval War of 1812" - lavishly-illustrated
and very informative books; they were originally £30 ($45) at full
cover price, now offered @ £7.99 ($12).
You could get still better deals, nevertheless - I got 2 of the 1812
volume for US friends (I already have it - I've picked up all 6 in
the series over about the last 2 1/2 years, from "Navies and the
American Revolution" onwards), together with
one of the previous Volume 5 ("The Victory of Seapower - Winning the
Napoleonic War, 1806-1814") and a copy of "Napoleon's Lost Fleet"
(i.e. that of the Nile, or Aboukir Bay, 1797) from The History
Channel with many beautifully-reproduced colour illustrations, all 4
volumes for £20, or $30. Hurry, though!
- Thanks to all on the list for expanding my horizons north of the US/Canada
border. Much appreciated. Now if I could only find the time to get up
Oh well..some day perhaps.
- Does anyone know if their will be a shuttle bus from a
parking lot to the Battlefield Park for spectators
like last year?
War of 1812 Website: war1812.tripod.com
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