46393RE: arm across your body salute
- Dec 26, 2012We can say that it survives to this day, but we can't say that it was what
was used by everyone.
We have seen one example in a regiment's "standing orders" but that doesn't
mean it was common practise. Also if you look at the Standing orders of the
85th you get a few other things. "Whenever a non-commissioned Officer,
Bugler, or Private has the occasion to address an officer, give a report,
etc.. if with arms he recovers first, returns to the carry, and only
recovers again when parting the officer." And before that, "All inferiors
are to give the salute first to their superiors. The salutes of all
Non-Commissioned Officers, Buglers and privates, are of two descriptions,
with arms and without. The Present and carry, (and occasionally the
recover,) when with arms."
If you look at the Standing Orders for the Royal Staff Corps it states
"A Good Soldier will be attentive and salute all Officers, and at all hours,
in whatever dress they may appear. He can have no excuse for passing an
Officer of his own Corps without paying that respect, as he must know him,
although in coloured clothes: in all such instances, when a man is a
centinel, he will only remain steady at his post with supported arms, in the
same manner as he is taught to acknowledge Officers passing his post after
So maybe before we say "this is how it is done" we do a little more research
From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Bateman
Sent: December-24-12 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: 1812 Re: Pike Drill for Serjeants, Revisited...
On 12/23/2012 8:25 PM, Kevin Windsor wrote:
> Where did this arm across the musket or pike come from?
It comes from moving from "slope arms" to "carry arms". We know that
sentries were allowed to carry their muskets at the slope until they saw
an officer approach, at which time they were to steady up and go to the
shoulder (drop the left hand down so the musket is vertical and at the
same time reach across the body with the right hand and set it into the
shoulder so it doesn't fall over forwards). This gesture of saluting an
officer while under arms by reaching across your body and slapping your
weapon still survives to this day.
Andrew Bateman, 41st Foot
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