36250Re: 1812 bombardment or battle - is there a difference?
- Jun 8, 2008I love the responses!!The reason I posted in the first place!!
I just want to add another comment as well
.. I personally see the exchange of fire being a quailifier for "a
battle". The Americans fired back, causing ships to draw back. The
diversion up the Ferry Branch also had Americans firing at an enemy
tactical move. If the Americans just sat their and took the
hammering (which the fort did for 90% of the time)I would call that
a siege or bombardment but they did fire back. Is that then a "re-
Was then the 2nd Battle of St. Leonard's Creek a battle for the men
who were on shore (as it has been established that artillery fire
between ships is a battle, but not ships and a fort?)?
Is "small arms" fire the qualifier?
USS CON 1812 MG
PS Would this all be a part of "The Battle of Baltimore"
Kinda like the air bombing on the French coast in the days previous
to D-Day. Tose airmen could say they fought in that battle even
though no small arms fire would be exchanged until a day or tow (or
more) later....or am I just grasping at imaginary straws here?
--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, BritcomHMP@... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/8/2008 1:05:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
> mimathews@... writes:
> What's in a name? I don't have the answer or frankly find it
> Well Mike, that depends on weather words actually mean things or
> thing we can say for sure is that it wasn't a battle. One fights a
> against an army, one lays siege to, or bombards a town city or
fortress. The words
> are important because they tell you what a thing is, at least they
> years ago so I think it is not unreasonable to go with the
> back then.
> Ah but here comes another wrinkle, which SIDE are you on and what
> perception? The British may have decided that it was not to be an
> McHenry but only a diversionary bombardment but the defenders can
> expected to see it the same way when rockets and shells are
landing on them. So
> while it is perfectly accurate for the British to say it was a
> also accurate for US accounts to call it a serious assault and
take pride in
> their survival.
> Perception is everything after all the Battle of New Orleans was
> while the war was still going on and it was NOT the last battle of
the war! I
> believe there are even people who think the US won, even though
non of their
> stated reasons for declaring war were acceded to and the US flag
> over Canada!
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