Re: Links... / letter from Headquarters
- :(. I am totally confused. Also one site says I have to order my
credentials next says you automatically get them in the mail...
I am getting a headache for trying to answer my calling.
Dana C. L.
--- In Universal_Life_Church@y..., Petros Evdokas
> Subject: RE: Links...
> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:53:45 -0700
> From: "Universal Life Church"
> To: "Petros Evdokas" <petros_cyprus@b...>
> We apologize for the tenseness of the e-mail. It was
> not inteded to be
> that way, and if there are any bad feelings regarding
> said communication, we
> would like to move that to the side and progress
> forward. The "money
> worshippers" as you claim, have not taken over the
> church. At the time of
> the Monastery's website creation, we did not have the
> resources or
> experience to create a website of our own, so we asked
> Brother Daniel to
> create a website in our interests. However, over the
> past couple of years,
> the ideas of Headquarters and the ideas of Brother
> Daniel have not quite
> been in sync so we have created our own site. Mainly
> for the purpose of
> letting any news or events happening at Headquarters,
> be spread to the
> Anyway, again I apologize for the sharp e-mail that was
> sent, and I hope
> that there are no bad feelings, and we do appreciate
> your support.
> Thank you.
> Joshua Hensley
> Universal Life Church
> 601 Third St.
> Modesto, CA 95351
> (209) 527-8111
> Hello Joshua,
> A million thanks for your response. This is the
> swiftest response I've ever experienced (or heard of)
> from the Mother Church on anything (it came the same
> day!). It's greatly appreciated.
> In your response, you address some things which have
> been troubling many members/ friends/ family of the
> ulc, for a few years now. Is it a sign of a shift in
> the balance of things?
> As you probably know, the whole yahoo- related
> conglomerate of online services is the largest portal
> on the internet, so those of the ulc who Congregate
> through those nodes (groups), have an impact on ulc
> communities everywhere, both online and offline, in the
> real world. So, I hope it's ok with you that I'm
> sharing this dialogue with lots of our people, in the
> hope that others among us will take heart from your
> tone and directness, and resist the money- worshippers
> We all know that the Modesto headquarters is very busy
> and that replying to individual mails, phones, and
> emails, is difficult. (In fact for me, the last direct
> contact I had with anyone in Modesto was in 1989 on the
> phone with Andre Hensley). That's why your tone and
> response is valuable - who knows when something so
> clear and concrete might come our way again from that
> direction? But anyway, if it helps you be in touch with
> more of what our members feel and say, I'm including
> some relevant letters below (written before your recent
> There are many ways ulc might benefit from its millions
> of members online; among us there are many resources,
> valid opinions, knowledge, and access to facilities
> which might be utilised to make better sense of the
> Modesto presence on the internet.
> Please feel free to write to any of us about anything,
> or just use our group addresses above to disperse news,
> information, updates. Also, if you prefer our
> communications to be more private, it's easily
> Thanks again,
> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:00:06 -0000
> From: "eyesmystic" <eyesmystic@a...>
> Subject: Re: Links...
> This is most confusing. The headquarter's link doesn't
> even appear in a
> google search for "universal life". No wonder I never
> received certificate
> or materials from my ordination! I've re-ordained with
> the main site, and
> hopefully will receive those promised materials.
> Unfortuantely, it is the
> blandest of all sites. I am relieved, however, that
> the 'monestary' is not
> the headquarters for the only religious institution I
> will allow myself to
> be associated with. Several of the other links claim
> to be the 'official'
> site of the church. Wonder if "generalcontact" is
> aware of or cares about
> Be Blessed,
> Cinde ~
> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:18:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jonathan Lobl <jonathanlobl@y...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Links...
> The confusion continues to expand. I just checked out
> "ulc.net" and "ulc.org" Both lead to active ulc
> sites. The ulc.net site claims to be Universal Life
> On Line, and ulc.org claims to be the HQ in Modesto.
> If this keeps up, ULC will face death by defusion.
> While we are on the topic, is anybody in the "mother
> church" actually keeping ordination records? Or
> degree records? Or any other records?
> Jonathan Lobl