Labor Day Gaming @ Constantine's (and an invite)
- A fine mini-monster game day of Diplomacy at the House of Maison de La Casa
von Hoffman in Brighton. In addition to myself and a flock of ducks,
Campbell, Matt H., Karl and Adam all made the trek to Brighton. Only Adam
and I had ever played the game before and Adam, whom none of us had gamed
with before, did a great job explaining the rules to all. In 5 person Dip.
no one plays either Italy or Germany, which gave me as France a huge
advantage at the beginning. Karl as England quickly scooped up the Norse
countries, while I cruised the Mediterranean. Adam as Austro-Hungary
gobbled up the Balkans, while Comrade Matt plunged into little old
defenseless Germany and Campbell did a fine job of finding out exactly
where the borders of Turkey were. There was much bargaining and some
double-crossing but in the end the game boiled down to Karl, myself and
Adam. Thanks to a fine rear-guard action by Campbell I was able to carve up
Adam in the Balkans, while Karl feasted on Mother Russia. The game was
called after 6 hours with me leading Karl either 13 to 11 or 12 to 10--i
Karl then had to leave so we all taught Adam (surprise, surprise) Settlers.
Matt romped in that one by like 10 to 6 or 7.
We're going to have another mini-monster in October--either Sunday the 7th
or the Sunday the 14th, depending on what works out for the most people.
Looks like we'll be playing Adv. Civ. Please let me know if you'd like to
Bringer of Doom ... And Pretzels!
- Agreed on the great reports! I am curious to know what those early
Turk screw ups were. Cutting your own support or something like that
One of my very first playings of Diplomacy was 2-player. Of course
this doesn't give you an inkling about the meat of the game, but it does
teach you the game's tactical manuevering. Dan and I set the game up
and played it for hours. I think the turning point came when Italy
joined the "war" and by random chance went to the dark side (Dan's Axis
forces) and I could no longer hold him off. We actually had a good time
with it, even though it boiled down to one big rock/scissors/paper
Keep me posted on the next possible mini-monster day! Perhaps we
can get a 5 player game of Die Macher in? Then again, Adv. Civ sounds
great too! Whatever, I'm easy. If I get free for a whole day of gaming
I'll play Tiddly Winks and be happy.
Matthew Horn wrote:
> great reports Campbell and Constantine.--
> I just wanted to thank Constantine for the hospitality. I hope the
> food we left makes up for the damage we did to your house!
> If you are interested, here is the only picture I took of the day.
> It clearly shows that Russia (white pieces) and the Ottoman Empire
> burn while France (black) fiddles (Constantine drinking) and
> (Red) plots revenge (Adam).
> Final scores for those of you playing along at home were:
> France: 12
> England: 9
> Austria-Hungary: 8
> Ottomans: 2
> Russia: 2
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> Agreed on the great reports! I am curious to know what those earlyIf memory serves me correctly there were 3 key mistakes, although there may
>Turk screw ups were. Cutting your own support or something like that
have been other smaller ones. The first, and probably the most costly was
the attempt to go directly from the Black Sea to the Aegean Sea without
first going through Constantinople. The second would be asking Russia to
support Bulgaria's attack on Rumania, and then attacking with the Black Sea.
And lastly, late in the game, asking France to attack Serbia from Albania
and then also trying to move there, bouncing France's attack and leaving
Serbia vacant and still under Austrian-Hungarian control.
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- --- In Unity_Games@y..., Mark Edwards <dangermouse@m...> wrote:
> Agreed on the great reports! I am curious to know what thoseearly
> Turk screw ups were. Cutting your own support or something likethat
> Campbell? ;-)I made an error in each of the first three turns (spring and fall '01
and spring '02) which basically allowed Russia and definitely Austria
to gobble-up all the land around the Ottoman Empire and completely
choke-off any growth or even movement on my part.
After calming down, and I was pissed and not as pleasant as I should
have been I admit (nothing hurts worse than knowing you screwed
yourself), I offered Austria peace if they would give me an "out"
(through greece). If he had given it, and held to it, I likely would
have fought France for Italy, and buffered Austria coincidentally. Of
course, he refused, so I turned Cassandric and proclaimed the
Ottomans as the "Thorn in the foot of the giant". That by the time he
was done with me, he'd be thoroughly screwed in Europe. Not with any
vindictiveness, of course. At the time I was just using it as a
bargaining point. It was sorta neat that that is more or less the way
it worked out though.
I was definitely nervous though, because the Austrian refusal
basically forced me to ally with Russia, and at the time they were
fairly well off AND...well, Russia was Matt. That would make ANYONE
The other errors throughout the game were just the sort of "shoot
yourself in the foot" kind of errors I normally make in most games.
Of course, in many more forgiving games, such errors can often be
disguised as maverick strategy that catches the opponent off-guard
and somehow leads to victory.
If only it were so in Diplomacy ;)
Of course, now I really DO want to play again. I've been thinking
about the game on and off all day and plotting my vengeance, heh.
- --- In Unity_Games@y..., Constantine von Hoffman <c@a...> wrote:
> We're going to have another mini-monster in October--either Sundaythe 7th
> or the Sunday the 14th, depending on what works out for the mostpeople.
> Looks like we'll be playing Adv. Civ. Please let me know if you'dlike to
> attend.Count me in for either date.