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RE: [USAICO] 2010/2011 UCI CX schedule (tentative)

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  • Meehan Jr., John
    Adam. Hope you are well and having a great new year. Are you going to Worlds? John ________________________________ From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
    Message 1 of 15 , Jan 13, 2010

      Adam.

       

      Hope you are well and having a great new year. Are you going to Worlds?

       

      John

       


      From: USAICO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:USAICO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Myerson
      Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:23 PM
      To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [USAICO] 2010/2011 UCI CX schedule (tentative)

       

       

      Kelli, et al,

       

      Now that I've had more time to look the calendar over, here's my feedback:

       

      One of the biggest rules we kept to was that there would be no conflicts within driving distance between events, so about 6 hours or so. So while I'd rather not see the new CA events on the same dates as Gloucester and Northampton , I can live with it. They're definitely within the standard we've set previously. Rochester , NY , however, is driving distance from Highland Park , NJ , and would really hurt both of those events.

       

      Further, when you add the new Tennessee race into the Gloucester/San Dimas weekend, and the new Rochester , NY race into the same weekend as Boulder/NJ, then you have 3 races on the same day, which is another big rule we've stuck to. No more than 2 races on the same day, anywhere.

       

      (Note, we haven't even considered the Canadian races into the equation at this point.)

       

      From my standpoint, the schedule as a whole would be best served by going to the ends with these races. Rochester needs to look at early September, and the first two weekends of the season which are still open. California and Tennessee need to be strongly encouraged to go to their own dates, in January. Doing so means 3 UCI races after New Year, and finally establishes the extra month of racing both the elites and the grassroots riders are looking for. That was demonstrated pretty clearly in Surf City this past weekend. And in the Southeast, there were no less than 8 races happening, in TN, FL, GA, and NC. And imagine if Meredith Miller and Tim Johnson were doing UCI races the next two weekends in CA?

       

      So if I had a priority list here:

       

      1. Rochester to early September, TN to January, or at the very least, both races to somewhere on the calendar where there was only 1 race.

       

      2. 2 new CA weekends to January, if possible.

       

      3. One of the 3 pair of races on the 18/19 of September moving up 1 or 2 weekends

       

      On that number 3 item I have to accept some responsibility. I was hired by a pre-existing music/sporting event festival to bring a UCI 'cross race to their already established production on the 25th. Additionally, the Mayor's Cup Criterium in downtown Boston is on the 26th. So to accommodate both of those events, Vermont agreed move back one weekend, to the 18/19th. They can't go to the 11/12 because the organizer is also involved with Univest that weekend, and they can't go to the 4/5 because of the Green Mountain Stage race.

       

      Feedback welcome, as always.

       

      Adam

       

      On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Lusk, Kelli wrote:



       

      Adam –

      Let’s plan on talking this week.  We’re working through this transition year, so my apologies it hasn’t been as smoothly as we would all like it to be.

       

      What day and time work for you?  I will send you a separate email arranging a day and time to talk with you.

       

      Thanks,

      Kelli

       

      Kelli Lusk

      Mountain Bike & Cyclo-cross Events Director

      USA Cycling

      210 USA Cycling Point, Suite 100

      Colorado Springs, CO 80919

      office:  719.434.4285

      fax:  719.434.4385

      cell:  719.229.8564

       

      From: Adam Myerson [mailto:adam@ cycle-smart. com] 
      Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:01 PM
      To: USAICO@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: Re: [USAICO] 2010/2011 UCI CX schedule (tentative)

       

       

      I don't mean to be flippant, but you just had to ask. I've offered repeatedly to bring you up to speed on how we've been getting things done as a private group, and how we've worked hard to create this cooperative group.

       

      We don't need the UCI inscription forms to have a discussion on this list about preferred dates, and to share information. We've always done this in November and December. Past year's emails are archived on the group, and you can see how we've done it every single year. When new organizers contacted Justin, Justin had them contact me, and I mediated between the organizers, either through phone calls or discussion on the list. Understandably, I'm proud and protective of the work that's been done here. I don't want to see it undone.

       

      Right off the bat, with just a quick look, I can say that I would have strongly encouraged the Tennessee organizer to find a different date, now that they are also CA races on the same weekend as Gloucester . Not only is that race going to get killed, you can guarantee the quality of riders will be low. That organizer in TN is running a race that I'm actually attending on January 31st, and I've been e-mailing with him for a few weeks. I had no idea he was running a UCI event. It's pretty clear he can run events in December or after Nationals, and that's where we need to be pushing new races, especially ones that in the South, and in California .

       

      I'm racing 'cross every weekend in the Southeast in January. Tim Johnson is racing in NorCal. We have to pushing the warm weather UCI races to January, like we discussed at the nationals meeting. If we knew about these new races, that conversation could have happened before dates were submitted, and before the meeting at nats, on the list.

       

      Adam

       

      On Jan 11, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Lusk, Kelli wrote:




       

      Adam –

      I was not aware that the schedule had been released publicly before anything was finalized in seasons past.  The schedule I submitted to UCI was very similar to previous years, with the exception of a few new races in areas of the country where UCI events had not been held in 2009.

       

      As for releasing these dates prior to the holidays, unfortunately, the UCI did not get me the inscription forms until much later, which pushed the dates back for inscription and collecting all the forms. 

       

      If people would like to let me know what their specific issues are with dates or new events, please let me know.

       

      Thanks,

      Kelli

       

      Kelli Lusk

      Mountain Bike & Cyclo-cross Events Director

      USA Cycling

      210 USA Cycling Point, Suite 100

      Colorado Springs, CO 80919

      office:  719.434.4285

      fax:  719.434.4385

      cell:  719.229.8564

       

      From: Adam Myerson [mailto:adam@ cycle-smart. com] 
      Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:15 PM
      To: USAICO@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: Re: [USAICO] 2010/2011 UCI CX schedule (tentative)

       

       

      Kelli,

       

      I understand that you might not want this schedule published to the media, but local associations have been asking me for this info since before nationals. New England had it's 2010 promoters scheduling meeting last weekend. They're waiting on this info so they can plan around us.

       

      In past year's we've submitted our dates to each other, to the list, for planning purposes, and had a tentative schedule out before the end of the year, and even before nationals. This year not only are we not getting it until now, we're seeing new races that no one was made aware of, no opportunity for conflict discussion and resolution was given, and we're being asked not to share it still?

       

      My goal is stepping back was to let other people, particularly people who are getting paid, step up and do the work I was doing for free. My fear in giving up control is that things wouldn't happen the way we needed them to for us to be as successful as possible. This is why we've done so much work to communication and organize among ourselves and a community of promoters up to this point. It's crucial we don't lose that now that we're depending on USAC more than we have in the past.

       

      The opportunity to share information about all these new races and have a chance to negotiation conflicts has already past, unfortunately. It's disappointing to be finding out about them now. At the very least, it's important for us to be share this information with our local race organizers so the non-UCI races can plan accordingly.

       

      Adam

       

       

      On Jan 11, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Lusk, Kelli wrote:





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      Dear CX UCI Promoters –

      Hope everyone is having a positive and productive start to 2010!

       

      Attached is the tentative schedule for the 2010/2011 CX UCI events.  They have been submitted to UCI, but I will not receive final approval for them until after their management committee meeting at the end of January.

       

      Please do not post or distribute this schedule.  An announcement with the final dates, category levels, and locations will be released once the events have been approved.

       

      Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions in regards to the schedule or the process.

       

      Best Regards,

      Kelli

       

      Kelli Lusk

      Mountain Bike & Cyclo-cross Events Director

      USA Cycling

      210 USA Cycling Point, Suite 100

      Colorado Springs, CO 80919

      office:  719.434.4285

      fax:  719.434.4385

      cell:  719.229.8564

       

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