Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: [USAICO] Re: Cross Summary Letter

Expand Messages
  • Mike Hebe
    That is a pretty damn long commute between races. My $.02 only. Hebe Saturn Classic promoter ... From: Mitch Graham To:
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 5, 2004
    • 0 Attachment
      That is a pretty damn long commute between races. My $.02 only.
      Hebe
      Saturn Classic promoter

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Mitch Graham" <mitch_biowheels@...>
      To: <USAICO@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:28 PM
      Subject: [USAICO] Re: Cross Summary Letter


      > Hi Matt,
      > Earlier today I faxed to you our inscription form for a Bio Wheels
      > event - we are looking at securing the Sunday Oct. 10th date for a C3
      > event in Cincinnati. There does appear to be a C3 race in Portland
      > on same day, but in looking at the current schedule it seems that
      > conflict is inevitable at some point. I spoke with Robert this
      > afternoon in regards to his Michigan race the previous weekend, and
      > we felt like it would be possible to at some point combine our events
      > on the same weekend for UCI travelers. There is an approximate 5 1/2
      > hour drive between Detroit and Cincinnati (doing the speed limit).
      > Any thoughts (anyone) on the likelyhood that racers would be
      > interested in doing the double with that amount of driving between
      > events on the weekend?
      >
      > Mitch Graham
      > Bio Wheels
      >
      > --- In USAICO@yahoogroups.com, "Murphy, Matt" <mmurphy@u...> wrote:
      > > Adam's interpretation of the situation is correct on all counts.
      > If you
      > > feel the need to run a separate u23 race, expect to pay the prize
      > list,
      > > but USAC and the UCI are not requiring the u23 riders to race alone.
      > > I'd also encourage you all to please separate the Juniors from the
      > > Masters, but either way - the Junior prize list must be paid.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Thanks very much to everyone who sent their inscription forms! If
      > you
      > > are not one of these people, today is the deadline!
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Cheers-
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Matt Murphy
      > >
      > > National Events Director
      > >
      > > USA Cycling
      > >
      > > 1 Olympic Plaza
      > >
      > > Colorado Springs, CO 80909
      > >
      > > p: 719.866.3376
      > >
      > > f: 719.866.4628
      > >
      > > w: www.usacycling.org
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: Adam Hodges Myerson [mailto:adam@c...]
      > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:50 AM
      > > To: USAICO
      > > Subject: Re: [USAICO] Cross Summary Letter
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > That's my understanding, Kelly, yes. I would wait for Matt, who I
      > would
      > > assume is on vacation, to confirm that officially. But based on
      > > conversations we had about it this year, you should check the U23
      > box,
      > > run
      > > your race as an Elite/U23 category, but only pay the elite prize
      > list.
      > >
      > > With this, everyone's racing for the same prize list (the elite
      > prize
      > > list),
      > > but U23's are allowed to enter the race. You should envision it as
      > > similar
      > > to running a Pro/1/2 road race. You have 3 categories, but only one
      > > prize
      > > list. You can note the top cat. 1 or cat. 2 in the results, but they
      > > don't
      > > get a separate prize list.
      > >
      > > This is different from the Junior situation, because the juniors
      > have a
      > > separate event and start. Even if you run them with the Masters
      > (which
      > > you
      > > should be moving away from anyway), it's a separate race, with a set
      > > prize
      > > list. If you ran the U23's separate, like they do at WC's and
      > > SuperPrestiges, you'd have to pay them separately then.
      > >
      > > Hope that makes it less and not more confusing.
      > >
      > > Adam
      > >
      > > > From: kjc <kc2738@y...>
      > > > Reply-To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:04:45 -0800 (PST)
      > > > To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Subject: Re: [USAICO] Cross Summary Letter
      > > >
      > > > Adam,
      > > >
      > > > Just to clarify, in 2004, UCI promotors will be under
      > > > no obligation to run a separate U23 race and they will
      > > > not have to have separate payouts for U23's when run
      > > > in conjunction with the Elite Men's race.
      > > >
      > > > For those of us new to promoting UCI races, this could
      > > > potentially be a big hit (if U23 payout somehow
      > > > becomes required after Jan 5) similar to 2003 Junior
      > > > payout situation.
      > > >
      > > > Kelly
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/
      > >
      > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
      > > USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      > > <mailto:USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
      > >
      > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
      > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      > To visit your group on the web, go to:
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/
      >
      > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
      > USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
      > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      >
      >
    • Adam Hodges Myerson
      ... Only by our east coast drive standards. Hebe, Kuhn didn t send in his inscription. I m e-mailing him, but any chance you can ride him, too? Adam
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 5, 2004
      • 0 Attachment
        > From: "Mike Hebe" <mhebe@...>
        > Reply-To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:58:10 -0500
        > To: <USAICO@yahoogroups.com>
        > Subject: Re: [USAICO] Re: Cross Summary Letter
        >
        > That is a pretty damn long commute between races. My $.02 only.
        > Hebe
        > Saturn Classic promoter

        Only by our east coast drive standards.

        Hebe, Kuhn didn't send in his inscription. I'm e-mailing him, but any chance
        you can ride him, too?

        Adam

        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "Mitch Graham" <mitch_biowheels@...>
        > To: <USAICO@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:28 PM
        > Subject: [USAICO] Re: Cross Summary Letter
        >
        >
        >> Hi Matt,
        >> Earlier today I faxed to you our inscription form for a Bio Wheels
        >> event - we are looking at securing the Sunday Oct. 10th date for a C3
        >> event in Cincinnati. There does appear to be a C3 race in Portland
        >> on same day, but in looking at the current schedule it seems that
        >> conflict is inevitable at some point. I spoke with Robert this
        >> afternoon in regards to his Michigan race the previous weekend, and
        >> we felt like it would be possible to at some point combine our events
        >> on the same weekend for UCI travelers. There is an approximate 5 1/2
        >> hour drive between Detroit and Cincinnati (doing the speed limit).
        >> Any thoughts (anyone) on the likelyhood that racers would be
        >> interested in doing the double with that amount of driving between
        >> events on the weekend?
        >>
        >> Mitch Graham
        >> Bio Wheels
        >>
        >> --- In USAICO@yahoogroups.com, "Murphy, Matt" <mmurphy@u...> wrote:
        >>> Adam's interpretation of the situation is correct on all counts.
        >> If you
        >>> feel the need to run a separate u23 race, expect to pay the prize
        >> list,
        >>> but USAC and the UCI are not requiring the u23 riders to race alone.
        >>> I'd also encourage you all to please separate the Juniors from the
        >>> Masters, but either way - the Junior prize list must be paid.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> Thanks very much to everyone who sent their inscription forms! If
        >> you
        >>> are not one of these people, today is the deadline!
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> Cheers-
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> Matt Murphy
        >>>
        >>> National Events Director
        >>>
        >>> USA Cycling
        >>>
        >>> 1 Olympic Plaza
        >>>
        >>> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
        >>>
        >>> p: 719.866.3376
        >>>
        >>> f: 719.866.4628
        >>>
        >>> w: www.usacycling.org
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> _____
        >>>
        >>> From: Adam Hodges Myerson [mailto:adam@c...]
        >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:50 AM
        >>> To: USAICO
        >>> Subject: Re: [USAICO] Cross Summary Letter
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> That's my understanding, Kelly, yes. I would wait for Matt, who I
        >> would
        >>> assume is on vacation, to confirm that officially. But based on
        >>> conversations we had about it this year, you should check the U23
        >> box,
        >>> run
        >>> your race as an Elite/U23 category, but only pay the elite prize
        >> list.
        >>>
        >>> With this, everyone's racing for the same prize list (the elite
        >> prize
        >>> list),
        >>> but U23's are allowed to enter the race. You should envision it as
        >>> similar
        >>> to running a Pro/1/2 road race. You have 3 categories, but only one
        >>> prize
        >>> list. You can note the top cat. 1 or cat. 2 in the results, but they
        >>> don't
        >>> get a separate prize list.
        >>>
        >>> This is different from the Junior situation, because the juniors
        >> have a
        >>> separate event and start. Even if you run them with the Masters
        >> (which
        >>> you
        >>> should be moving away from anyway), it's a separate race, with a set
        >>> prize
        >>> list. If you ran the U23's separate, like they do at WC's and
        >>> SuperPrestiges, you'd have to pay them separately then.
        >>>
        >>> Hope that makes it less and not more confusing.
        >>>
        >>> Adam
        >>>
        >>>> From: kjc <kc2738@y...>
        >>>> Reply-To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
        >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:04:45 -0800 (PST)
        >>>> To: USAICO@yahoogroups.com
        >>>> Subject: Re: [USAICO] Cross Summary Letter
        >>>>
        >>>> Adam,
        >>>>
        >>>> Just to clarify, in 2004, UCI promotors will be under
        >>>> no obligation to run a separate U23 race and they will
        >>>> not have to have separate payouts for U23's when run
        >>>> in conjunction with the Elite Men's race.
        >>>>
        >>>> For those of us new to promoting UCI races, this could
        >>>> potentially be a big hit (if U23 payout somehow
        >>>> becomes required after Jan 5) similar to 2003 Junior
        >>>> payout situation.
        >>>>
        >>>> Kelly
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> _____
        >>>
        >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
        >>>
        >>> * To visit your group on the web, go to:
        >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/
        >>>
        >>> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        >>> USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >>> <mailto:USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
        >>>
        >>> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
        >>> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> Yahoo! Groups Links
        >>
        >> To visit your group on the web, go to:
        >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/
        >>
        >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        >> USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >>
        >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
        >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
        >>
        >>
        >
        >
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        > To visit your group on the web, go to:
        > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/
        >
        > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        > USAICO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >
        > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
        > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
        >
        >
      Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.