RE: [USAICO] Nationals promoters' meeting
- Adam,It's been confirmed that Louisville would like to host a UCI race on Saturday, October 8th. We'd be interested in doing the Cincinnati race the following day, Sunday, October 9th.Thanks!Mitch
Tom McDaniel <ctmcdaniel@...> wrote:
I'm waiting for some more info but for now Granogue will be the weekend
From: Adam Hodges Myerson [mailto:adam@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [USAICO] Nationals promoters' meeting
Chip, YOUR DATE!
Are you going to stay on the same date?
on 12/2/04 11:31 PM, sovek at sovek@... wrote:
> trust me, i'm bummed i can't make it out this year. family, work...the
> usual commitments must prevail, but i'll be there in spirit.
> Adam Hodges Myerson wrote:
>> Naturally. But I'll still find a way to mock those not in attendance as
>> Attached are the minutes from last year's meeting, to refresh people
>> of what
>> the issues were a year ago, and provide and example of what you can
>> Date, Chip, date. Are you planning to stay on your date next year?
>> on 12/2/04 9:53 PM, sovek at sovek@... wrote:
>>> for those that will not be able to make it, i'm sure you will provide a
>>> well documented report to keep us in the loop.
>>> Cap Cross Classic
>>> Adam Hodges Myerson wrote:
>>>> Fellow organizers,
>>>> I'd like to get us all together again for what I'm hoping will now
>> be an
>>>> annual US Association of International Cyclo-Cross Organizers meeting.
>>>> I'm happy to announce the Peter Van Den Abeele from the UCI has
>> agreed to
>>>> attend our meeting.
>>>> I'm interested in hearing topics from all of you that should be on the
>>>> agenda. What questions do you have? What feedback do you want to offer?
>>>> I expect we'll discuss next year's schedule as well, so please come
>>>> with your preferred dates.
>>>> I'd like to submit Saturday, 7-8 pm, at the race hotel, unless there
>>>> are any
>>>> objections or suggestions otherwise. I'll work on getting space for us.
>>>> Looking forward to seeing all of you there.
>>>> Adam F. Hodges Myerson
>>>> Cycle-Smart, Inc.
>>>> President, Solutions for Cycling
>>>> PO Box 1482
>>>> Northampton, MA 01061
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>> [USAICO] USAICO Meeting overview
>> Adam Hodges Myerson <adam@...>
>> Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:57:22 -0500
>> USAICO <USAICO@yahoogroups.com>
>> USAICO <USAICO@yahoogroups.com>
>> <dcowley@...>, Pat Flanagan <pflanagan@...>,
>> Richard Fries <rfries@...>, Bryan Jew <BJew@...>, Greg
>> Black <greg@...>, Michael Magur <mike@...>,
>> Andrew Albright <monkeyhillcs@...>, "Burgess, Brian
>> [Planning]" <BurgessB@...>, C Thomas McDaniel
>> <ctmcdaniel@...>, Craig Callan <CMCallan@...>, Mike Hebe
>> <mhebe@...>, <kc2738@...>, <kuhndog1@...>,
>> <slitvin@...>, <sovek@...>, Jonathan Sundt
>> <debehop@...>, Brian Furness
>> <brianfurness@...>, "Bisceglia, Gerard"
>> <gbisceglia@...>, Erwin Vervecken
>> <erwin.vervecken@...>, R�gis Alexandre <cyclo-cross@...>,
>> NECCS Promoters <email@example.com>
>> Overview of the inaugural meeting of the US Association of International
>> Cyclo-Cross Organizers
>> We had what I would consider to be a very successful meeting at
>> albeit a late start and finish, and sleepy eyes by the time we were done.
>> assemble a large portion of US UCI event organizers in the same room for
>> first time was a major, historic accomplishment. I'd like to thank all of
>> you who attended.
>> I didn't keep meeting minutes, but I'll try to review the main points
>> were hit upon, and directions that were chosen.
>> Present were race organizers from CA, WA, OR, NC, UT, MA, ME, and MI, as
>> well as "interested party" Geoff Proctor, and USAC National Events
>> Coordinator Matt Murphy. (Matt's new assistant was present as well, and I
>> apologize for forgetting his name.)
>> Major Points:
>> 1. Matt handed out the UCI calendar application for 2004. The original
>> deadline was Dec. 15, but that has been extended to Jan. 5. To receive a
>> copy of the application from Matt by fax, please e-mail him your fax
>> and contact info at <mmurphy@...>. Matt is also on the USAICO
>> e-mail list.
>> 2. USAC permit fees must be paid according to your full prize list in
>> Previous "arrangements" some promoters had in the past, carrying over
>> Tara Morris, are no longer valid. This permit fee is different from your
>> calendar fee you pay to the UCI.
>> Schedule Issues/Philosophy:
>> 3. It was put forth that the SuperCup raised the level of 'cross in the
>> and broke down many of the regional, even tribal barriers that created
>> of the negative rivalries that existed in the '80's and '90's. It was
>> that with the new generation of riders and promoters, healthy rivalries
>> fun, but we're committed to working together and learning from each other
>> for the benefit of US 'cross as a whole. Destructive scene rivalry is
>> 4. Without the SuperCup, the "middle" of the sport has been filled in and
>> strengthened by the growth of a Cyclo-Cross National Racing Calendar,
>> consisting of all the US UCI races. However, we still need to be moving
>> towards a reintroduction of a "US Pro Cyclo-Cross Tour," consisting of a
>> weekend of the biggest races in each strong 'cross region, currently the
>> Northwest, NorCal, New England, and the Mid-Atlantic. Ideally, this would
>> happen in 2005. Even after that, the 'cross NRC will still have value, as
>> UCI points will continue to be a factor in worlds selection criteria, as
>> Matt pointed out. However, a pro 'cross tour will guarantee the best
>> from every region attending at least 6-8 races before nationals.
>> 5. It was agreed that the development of the NRC had to take a bi-coastal
>> approach, with the middle races (currently, Michigan, Salt Lake, and
>> trying to fit in amongst that schedule where it makes the most sense.
>> means the east coast and west coast first working together to make sure
>> for riders within the respective region, there are no (or minimal)
>> within driving distances, and that there are races every weekend. From
>> there, each coast will come together (primarily Jim Brown representing
>> West, and myself representing the East), and try to mitigate major
>> if possible.
>> With the incredibly early deadline from the UCI this year, however, this
>> will be nearly impossible. The current situation is essentially that the
>> east has already finalized it's schedule, leaving room for established
>> west coast weekends (namely Seattle/Portland and Nationals), and hoping
>> Western promoters can work around that schedule to everyone's benefit.
>> 6. It was suggested that regions with warmer weather begin to look to
>> organizing UCI events after nationals, in January. Generally, the season
>> considered to begin the weekend after Labor Day and go until the weekend
>> before Christmas. Further expansion is desired at least until the second
>> weekend of January (the traditional national championships date), and in
>> further years, until the last weekend of January (the weekend before the
>> world championships).
>> 7. A January nationals was generally agreed as desirable, with many
>> No one was in a hurry to see it happen, yet the consensus seemed to be
>> we would get there sooner or later, and was a necessary carrot for
>> the season in most regions. For it to happen, a promoter needs to put in
>> bid willing to go on that date, the "mood" of the 'cross community would
>> evaluated, and a decision made. The pros and cons were many, we've all
>> them before, and are too long to list here.
>> 8. It was agreed that all the US UCI organizers would loosely join
>> under the banner of the US Association of International Cyclo-Cross
>> Organizers, modeled after the AIOC-Cross in Europe. The USAICO e-mail
>> would become the primary means of communication between UCI organizers,
>> between Matt Murphy and us. From this e-mail on, all correspondence will
>> done there. UCI race organizers receiving this e-mail who have not joined
>> the list should do so here: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/USAICO/>. This
>> group will be limited to one person per event, an organizer or president
>> a series of events, and Matt Murphy. We would be happy to have a
>> representative from the UCI and/or the AIOC-Cross on the list as well.
>> 9. It was suggested that all UCI promoters should generally try to attend
>> each other's events, but specifically the US Nationals Championships and
>> UCI World Championships, as our two "conventions." We agreed on a yearly
>> meeting at nationals, and all were encouraged to attend the AIOC-Cross
>> meeting at Worlds this year, to become part of the international 'cross
>> 10. The East Coast 'Cross schedule was presented:
>> Date Race Name Location Category
>> Oct. 16 Downeast Cyclo-Cross New Gloucester, ME 3
>> Oct. 23 Granogue, DE 2
>> Oct. 24 Wissahickon, PA 3
>> Oct. 30 Central Mass Cyclo-Cross to End Homelessness Worcester, MA 2
>> Oct. 31 ECV/Clif Bar Cyclo-Cross Gloucester, MA 2
>> Nov. 6 Saturn Classic Harrisburg, PA 2
>> Nov. 7 Harrisburg, PA 3
>> Nov. 13 Chainbiter 6.0 Farmington, CT 2/3?
>> Nov. 14 14th Cycle-Smart International Northampton, MA 2
>> Nov. 20 Beacon Bridgeton, NJ 3
>> Nov. 21 Highland Park, NJ 2
>> Nov. 27 Gearworks Cyclo-Cross Sterling, MA 3
>> Dec. 4 Reston, VA 3
>> Dec. 4 WE Stedman Grand Prix of Cyclo-Cross S. Kingston, RI 3
>> Dec. 5 NEBC Cyclo-Cross Merrimack, NH 3
>> Other known dates were Jonny Sundt's race on the last weekend of
>> Michigan on the first weekend of October, and Portland/Seattle on the
>> weekend of October. The 2004 trade show in Vegas is on October 6-8,
>> With that, the meeting was generally concluded, with a commitment to
>> the lines of communication open and continuing to work together.
>> I believe that every US UCI organizer is represented here, with the
>> exception of the Reno promoter, whose e-mail has bounced in the past. If
>> anyone knows this person and can contact him or forward this e-mail to
>> at a better address, please do so, and CC me on it.
>> Thank you, everyone.
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