331RE: [U-Zendo] Re: anger(CHAT)
- Nov 9, 2006Scott -
"Causal" was not a typo. I was asking, not very clearly, if you were
speaking of anger causing trauma or trauma causing anger. It sounds like
trauma causing anger. My first reaction was that I didn't remember much
trauma, or at least that any anger seemed to be directed toward
inanimate objects or myself; but I think I will look more closely.
From: U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: [U-Zendo] Re: anger(CHAT)
Yes well casual or not, the two seem to be linked...
Lots of people who have been through trauma have anger problems esp.
when memories of the abuse is triggered.
--- In U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com, "Palmer, Ralph" <rpalmer@...> wrote:
> Hi, Scott -
> Seems like almost everyone has been away for a while.
> Are you speaking of a causal link? Anger --> trauma? Or trauma -->
> Ralph Palmer
> Keene, NH, and Greenfield, MA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com] On
> Of Scott
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:32 AM
> To: U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [U-Zendo] Re: anger(CHAT)
> Hi, Ive been away for a while. On this subject, would anyone like
> comment/chat on the link between anger and trauma?
> --- In U-Zendo@yahoogroups.com, Richard Horvitz <rhorvitz@> wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Walt Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > On Aug 13, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Richard Horvitz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Whether it would help or not to have a prohibition against
> > > > I don't know.
> > >
> > > Maybe we're confusing anger with its unfettered expression. You
> > > ban anger any more than you can sexual desire. What you can do
> > > exercise control over its expression, which we do all the time.
> > >
> > I don't think this is totally true. Anger is largely a learned
> > If you live with people who get angry easily you are likely to do
> so also.
> > Won't being mindful of how anger arises make it less likely?
> > From another point of view, an incident of anger is a long chain
> > events. First you see someone doing something, then you think
> that it is
> > contrary to your interest, or offensive to you, then you think
> that the
> > person is doing it with the intention of harming you, then you
> think about
> > how you have objected to this behavior in the past yet they are
> doing it
> > again, then your ears turn a bit red, then you swear a bit under
> > breath, then you start thinking about how you might hurt them in
> > (justice, if you will), then you pick up the knife and creep up
> > them, and finally you plunge it into their back. So this last
> step is
> > clearly unfettered expression, but where is the cut off? It can
> > anywhere.
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