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  • nukupower
    Talofa katoa koulua konei e faitusaga kite matupu tenei. Ia au nei e fou ki loto nei kae ko lavea ne au te fai valevale mai ne lupeniwater ate koga titi manatu
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      Talofa katoa koulua konei e faitusaga kite matupu tenei. Ia au nei e fou ki loto nei kae ko lavea ne au te fai valevale mai ne lupeniwater ate koga titi manatu tenei. Koi tuai au o titi ne mu manatu mai konei, au e faitonu atu me iloa lei ne au te tino tenei kafai la aia se talitonu mai ko meli mai ki toku acc ko te mea ke fakaasi atu neau tou igoa tonu koi tuai o fakaasi kite tuvalu yahoo groups.

      Ko te Public order Act tenei e fakatusa neau pela mese fale ne faite ki mea faka Tuvalu, ke fai atu ne au penei E FAKATOLU TAIMI NE FAKASAOSAO TE ORDER TENEI I LOTO ITE TUVALU MEDIA TELA E FAKALOGOLOGO KATOA TE ATUFENUA O TUVALU.

      1. P.M ... ne fakaasi ne ia me ko tapu sose fakapotopotoga e silga mote toko 10 tino iei

      2. A.G ... e fakasao ne ia te fakaasiga te P.M tela muamua ona e pokotia ki kau lotu kola e fakatokatoka olotou kaiga fakamavae ki olotou Faifeau. Kae fakaasi ne te A.G me ko Fakaala, Fonotaga mo Maati e tapu i lalo ote tulafono tenei.

      3. P.M ... toe fakasao neia te A.G ona ko aso faka manatu a fenua takitasi ko pokotia foki ne te ORDER tenei, tela ne lavea atu tena mataku i tino o tena fenua me ko toe fakapatonu mai neia me ko fonataga mo Maati fua e tapu.

      Ka kilo tatou kite tulafono se tulafono loa e sako kae tali tonu foki au me ite tulafono tenei se fakasino ne ia ate lotu,fakaala,public bar,fonotaga,nightclub mo maati io mene a foki. A mea ne tau o kilo malosi ki ei te ORDER tenei pela foki mo public bar mo nightclub konei loa e fai nei, ko koga kola e fakatupu neia a fakalavelave fakamataku. MUNA AKU PATI NEI ME KO SADDAM TELA LA KO TAFAGA ATU TE MALO O TUVALU.

      Mo koulua kola e nofo mai tua atu o Tuvalu ke iloa ne koulua me seai loa se mea e tupu i luga i Funafuti nei. A tino Nukufetau konei loa e nofo malie i olotou fale, kote kau fiafai taua fua konei e tele saale i olotou motoka o aveave a information fakatupu taua pela mo Lupeniwater. Mai konei ko lavea ne tatou te tulaga ote Malo o Tuvalu ko se nofo tonu ite tena tulaga. Fakafesili me kaia ko fai iei penei te tali mai konei e 100% PATONU kiukiu a olotou mea masei konei e funa mo a e sae ki tua.

      MO KOE LUPENIWAI KE ILOA NE KOE TE UIGA LUPENIWAI ITE GANA FIJI, KOTE POTIKO A SATANI...

      ke manuia te faiga titi manatu





      --- In Tuvalu2@yahoogroups.com, kilitialupeniwai <no_reply@...> wrote:
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      > Talofa Listers kae maise koulua kola ne fai tusaga kite mataupu tena mai luga.
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      > I was keen to hear Salai's response to Sandy, and to interpret what you Salai, understand of why the PM made the order appears to me that there were no evidence for the PM to justify the making of the Order. Salai sounds legalistic with her argument but I doubt if she had read section 18, the empowering provision under that Act which the PM invoked. Reading between the lines of that section one can easily understand that the power is a preventative measure. The PM or Minister need not wait for a public disorder disorder to happen in order to invoke section 18. The PM must be proactive and to make sure that peace is maintained.
      > Te mea loa tela ne kamata ne ia te fakaoga ote malosi o te PM ona ko mea konei. Ite tusi a te Ulu Aliki o Nukufetau kia Lotoala ne fakailoa kia Lotoala me kafai se lisaina aia Lotoala, a te fenua ko Nukufetau ka fakaoti tena malosi ke fakataunu iei tena ikuga(te ikuga ke lisaina Lotoala) Ka taumata la tatou ki vaega resolution konei e democratic, konei vaega Resolution o Falekaupule e tau o takitaki kiei te Tuvalu?? Konei a tu mo aganu o Tuvalu?? Ikai.
      > Te maech, ne fakaoko atu te tusi a te Komisina o Pulisimani kite fenua ke tai taofi aka te olotou march, ke fai aka se faipati a te Loia ote Malo mo te Failautusi o te Malo mote Savali a te Ulu Aliki o Nukufetau. Sea te mea ne tupu se fiafakalogo kae fai loa ke fai te olotou march.
      > Kiloke, fanu Tuvalu, ne uiga o mea konei?? Kafai Nukufetau e manako ke fakaoga loa tena malosi ke demand ne ia te resignation a Lotoala, te mea tena e unlawful me koa fai malo ne latou te tino mai tena fundamental right to make his/her own joice. Mea tena se saolotoga i lalo o te Fakavae. Kaia sea la te mea ka tupu, a reasonable PM ka act, o puipui ke moa e isi ne fakalavelave e tupu, me koa matea atu Nukufetau e pela me ka puke te tulafono ki olotou lima. Tena loa te pogai e oku tagata.
      > Ia koa tuku ifo tatou ki Tu mo Anganu faka-Tuvalu. Te teuteuga o fakalavelave penei i tu mo faifaiga faka-Tuvalu e gali kae isi ne taimi koa se maua o fai ne Tu mo faifaiga fakaTuvalu tela koa tatau ai o olo tatou kite Fono Maluga High Court. Kae kote fakalavelave la me pela me se talia ne Nukufetau kae manako fua ko Lotoala ke lisaina, ona la kote se fia fakalogo o Lotoala kite ikuga tena ko ala iei o fai ne vaega mea pena. A mea la kona ne fakamafua aka fua ne Enele ona ko tena fia PM pena foki mo tena political cronies kona me manako ke omai ki loto. Ia a nUkufetau e fai me ke solve te problem i tu mo faifaiga fakaTuvalu. Te fesili la a te mea tenei kite March e pela mote mea ne fai ne Nukufetau se tu mote aganu o Tuvalu, se faifaiga ne masani koe mo au kiei ite fakatokaga ote filemu??? Ailoga loa. Ao, ka maua ne kita te lei i tu mo aganu ko kinau me tela te mea e tau o fai kae ke se olo kite tulafono me se lei kite olotou manakoga.
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      > Au i taku logoga mai Loia konei, tela koa tai maina me ite Resolution a Nukufetau e unconstitutional e pela mo te verdict a te Court of Appeal ite case o Mase. Nei koa iloa nei ne tatou me i Falekaupule Resolutions are laws made by customary process and therefore forms part of customary law. Since they are regarded as laws they must conform and comply with the Constitution. From that understanding, I think but I stand to be corrected, that if the existing resolution of Nukufetau would otherwise be unconstitutional, it would be very wrong to say that it is constitutional simply because of disobedience to the unconstitutional law(Falekaupule Resulotion)and that would lead us to violence.
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      > A takitaki e tau o ava ki tu mo aganu kae tau foki o ava kite tulafono and the syatem of Government. Telala ko tau o fakapaleni fakalei a tulaga konei o tu mo aganu me se fai pela me i tu mo aganu e tau o fakataua i taimi katoa, ikai e tau o masaua ne tatou me i Tuvalu e subject ki changes kae ko tu mo akanu e tau foki o mafulifuli ona ko pokotiaga konei e pokotia iei tatou ona kote globalisation. A te Preamble ote Fakavae ite Principal 7 & 8 e fakamalosi mai ne laua tulaga konei ote mafulifuliga o tu mo faifaiga faka Tuvalu. Ke manuia koulua ite alofa ote aliki.
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      > KLupeniwai
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    • nukupower
      Talofa, Fakafetai lasi mote vauga mai ia Iapeta e tonu foki i mea katoa e tau o fakapatonu nete FONO, koi tuai au o faipati kite feitu tenei kae ke avatu ne au
      Message 44 of 44 , Feb 2, 2011
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        Talofa,

        Fakafetai lasi mote vauga mai ia Iapeta e tonu foki i mea katoa e tau o fakapatonu nete FONO, koi tuai au o faipati kite feitu tenei kae ke avatu ne au se fakatusaaga. A tagata mafi ka gasue ki mua se toe foki ki tua, tela la e Iapeta ko taumafai la koe o faka mataupusilisili ko maina ei koe i tulaga mo faifaiga a Malo lasi Malo foliki e pau katoa.

        Pefea loa te case a te malu Apisai vs Matanile, Tavau vs Sam, sea te mea ne tupu ne togi nete malo a sene ote atufenua ke vau se loia mai tua atu o Tuvalu o tuu mai tafa o Apisai mo Tavau. Kae pefea la a LOIA ote malo ... kaati la ne fune! Tela la te fakapatonu kite fono se taitai loa o mai neia te mea tonu, vaegana ke vau se Malo mai tua atu o Tuvalu o puke maloo neia te malo o Tuvalu io me kote TUVALU POLICE FORCE ko faato sae mai ki tua a masaki pela mo cancer,potu gakau,gugu mene a foki.

        Ia te public order tenei loa e fakatekateka tena taganoa i luga ite laumua, kaati moi seai se public order penei kaati la ese kaa a fale konei e lua. Te fakalavelave ko police ko se tau kite taaga o afi ona ko to lasi teletele saale ite motoka, pasikaiti o spy ki maopoopoga.

        fakafetai lasi





        --- In Tuvalu2@yahoogroups.com, Iabeta Taeai <betamax723@...> wrote:
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        > Talofa katoa,
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        > ko fakafesili ne au ate fakamunaga a nukupower tela e fai penei  '100% PATONU kiukiu a olotou mea masei konei e funa mo a e sae ki tua.'
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        > au e se fia kau ki mea masei e fai mo faifaiga se tonu ki mea ote atufenua, kae kafai e tonu tau fakamunaga tena, au e kau kia koe ke, ave katoa loa kite fono, e tena tekoga e mautinoa tonu me tefea te tala tonu, kae kofea foki tala e sena ko tonu, iloo te fai fua tou pati kae tela la e seai se fakapatonuga ki molimau kona.
        >  ka ko au e kau ke ave kite fono so se vaega faifaiga e ese tonu kote mea ke toe mae tou mafaufau.
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        > fafetai
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        > --- On Wed, 2/2/11, nukupower <nukupower@...> wrote:
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        > From: nukupower <nukupower@...>
        > Subject: [Tuvalu] Re: Public Order Act of Tuvalu
        > To: Tuvalu2@yahoogroups.com
        > Received: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 6:06 AM
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        > Talofa katoa koulua konei e faitusaga kite matupu tenei. Ia au nei e fou ki loto nei kae ko lavea ne au te fai valevale mai ne lupeniwater ate koga titi manatu tenei. Koi tuai au o titi ne mu manatu mai konei, au e faitonu atu me iloa lei ne au te tino tenei kafai la aia se talitonu mai ko meli mai ki toku acc ko te mea ke fakaasi atu neau tou igoa tonu koi tuai o fakaasi kite tuvalu yahoo groups.
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        > Ko te Public order Act tenei e fakatusa neau pela mese fale ne faite ki mea faka Tuvalu, ke fai atu ne au penei E FAKATOLU TAIMI NE FAKASAOSAO TE ORDER TENEI I LOTO ITE TUVALU MEDIA TELA E FAKALOGOLOGO KATOA TE ATUFENUA O TUVALU.
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        > 1. P.M ... ne fakaasi ne ia me ko tapu sose fakapotopotoga e silga mote toko 10 tino iei
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        > 2. A.G ... e fakasao ne ia te fakaasiga te P.M tela muamua ona e pokotia ki kau lotu kola e fakatokatoka olotou kaiga fakamavae ki olotou Faifeau. Kae fakaasi ne te A.G me ko Fakaala, Fonotaga mo Maati e tapu i lalo ote tulafono tenei.
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        > 3. P.M ... toe fakasao neia te A.G ona ko aso faka manatu a fenua takitasi ko pokotia foki ne te ORDER tenei, tela ne lavea atu tena mataku i tino o tena fenua me ko toe fakapatonu mai neia me ko fonataga mo Maati fua e tapu.
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        > Ka kilo tatou kite tulafono se tulafono loa e sako kae tali tonu foki au me ite tulafono tenei se fakasino ne ia ate lotu,fakaala,public bar,fonotaga,nightclub mo maati io mene a foki. A mea ne tau o kilo malosi ki ei te ORDER tenei pela foki mo public bar mo nightclub konei loa e fai nei, ko koga kola e fakatupu neia a fakalavelave fakamataku. MUNA AKU PATI NEI ME KO SADDAM TELA LA KO TAFAGA ATU TE MALO O TUVALU.
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        > Mo koulua kola e nofo mai tua atu o Tuvalu ke iloa ne koulua me seai loa se mea e tupu i luga i Funafuti nei. A tino Nukufetau konei loa e nofo malie i olotou fale, kote kau fiafai taua fua konei e tele saale i olotou motoka o aveave a information fakatupu taua pela mo Lupeniwater. Mai konei ko lavea ne tatou te tulaga ote Malo o Tuvalu ko se nofo tonu ite tena tulaga. Fakafesili me kaia ko fai iei penei te tali mai konei e 100% PATONU kiukiu a olotou mea masei konei e funa mo a e sae ki tua.
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        > MO KOE LUPENIWAI KE ILOA NE KOE TE UIGA LUPENIWAI ITE GANA FIJI, KOTE POTIKO A SATANI...
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        > ke manuia te faiga titi manatu
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        > --- In Tuvalu2@yahoogroups.com, kilitialupeniwai <no_reply@> wrote:
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        > > Talofa Listers kae maise koulua kola ne fai tusaga kite mataupu tena mai luga.
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        > > I was keen to hear Salai's response to Sandy, and to interpret what you Salai, understand of why the PM made the order appears to me that there were no evidence for the PM to justify the making of the Order. Salai sounds legalistic with her argument but I doubt if she had read section 18, the empowering provision under that Act which the PM invoked. Reading between the lines of that section one can easily understand that the power is a preventative measure. The PM or Minister need not wait for a public disorder disorder to happen in order to invoke section 18. The PM must be proactive and to make sure that peace is maintained.
        > > Te mea loa tela ne kamata ne ia te fakaoga ote malosi o te PM ona ko mea konei. Ite tusi a te Ulu Aliki o Nukufetau kia Lotoala ne fakailoa kia Lotoala me kafai se lisaina aia Lotoala, a te fenua ko Nukufetau ka fakaoti tena malosi ke fakataunu iei tena ikuga(te ikuga ke lisaina Lotoala) Ka taumata la tatou ki vaega resolution konei e democratic, konei vaega Resolution o Falekaupule e tau o takitaki kiei te Tuvalu?? Konei a tu mo aganu o Tuvalu?? Ikai.
        > > Te maech, ne fakaoko atu te tusi a te Komisina o Pulisimani kite fenua ke tai taofi aka te olotou march, ke fai aka se faipati a te Loia ote Malo mo te Failautusi o te Malo mote Savali a te Ulu Aliki o Nukufetau. Sea te mea ne tupu se fiafakalogo kae fai loa ke fai te olotou march.
        > > Kiloke, fanu Tuvalu, ne uiga o mea konei?? Kafai Nukufetau e manako ke fakaoga loa tena malosi ke demand ne ia te resignation a Lotoala, te mea tena e unlawful me koa fai malo ne latou te tino mai tena fundamental right to make his/her own joice. Mea tena se saolotoga i lalo o te Fakavae. Kaia sea la te mea ka tupu, a reasonable PM ka act, o puipui ke moa e isi ne fakalavelave e tupu, me koa matea atu Nukufetau e pela me ka puke te tulafono ki olotou lima. Tena loa te pogai e oku tagata.
        > > Ia koa tuku ifo tatou ki Tu mo Anganu faka-Tuvalu. Te teuteuga o fakalavelave penei i tu mo faifaiga faka-Tuvalu e gali kae isi ne taimi koa se maua o fai ne Tu mo faifaiga fakaTuvalu tela koa tatau ai o olo tatou kite Fono Maluga High Court. Kae kote fakalavelave la me pela me se talia ne Nukufetau kae manako fua ko Lotoala ke lisaina, ona la kote se fia fakalogo o Lotoala kite ikuga tena ko ala iei o fai ne vaega mea pena. A mea la kona ne fakamafua aka fua ne Enele ona ko tena fia PM pena foki mo tena political cronies kona me manako ke omai ki loto. Ia a nUkufetau e fai me ke solve te problem i tu mo faifaiga fakaTuvalu. Te fesili la a te mea tenei kite March e pela mote mea ne fai ne Nukufetau se tu mote aganu o Tuvalu, se faifaiga ne masani koe mo au kiei ite fakatokaga ote filemu??? Ailoga loa. Ao, ka maua ne kita te lei i tu mo aganu ko kinau me tela te mea e tau o fai kae ke se olo kite tulafono me se lei kite olotou manakoga.
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        > > Au i taku logoga mai Loia konei, tela koa tai maina me ite Resolution a Nukufetau e unconstitutional e pela mo te verdict a te Court of Appeal ite case o Mase. Nei koa iloa nei ne tatou me i Falekaupule Resolutions are laws made by customary process and therefore forms part of customary law. Since they are regarded as laws they must conform and comply with the Constitution. From that understanding, I think but I stand to be corrected, that if the existing resolution of Nukufetau would otherwise be unconstitutional, it would be very wrong to say that it is constitutional simply because of disobedience to the unconstitutional law(Falekaupule Resulotion)and that would lead us to violence.
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        > > A takitaki e tau o ava ki tu mo aganu kae tau foki o ava kite tulafono and the syatem of Government. Telala ko tau o fakapaleni fakalei a tulaga konei o tu mo aganu me se fai pela me i tu mo aganu e tau o fakataua i taimi katoa, ikai e tau o masaua ne tatou me i Tuvalu e subject ki changes kae ko tu mo akanu e tau foki o mafulifuli ona ko pokotiaga konei e pokotia iei tatou ona kote globalisation. A te Preamble ote Fakavae ite Principal 7 & 8 e fakamalosi mai ne laua tulaga konei ote mafulifuliga o tu mo faifaiga faka Tuvalu. Ke manuia koulua ite alofa ote aliki.
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