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  • Sea
    Interesting that you believe God promised eternal life to the wicked. Sea ... From: sojourning To:
    Message 1 of 472 , Jan 1, 2009
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      Interesting that you believe God promised eternal life to the wicked.

      Sea


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "sojourning" <learningtorah2001@...>
      To: <TrinityQuestion@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:43 AM
      Subject: [TrinityQuestion] Re: Worship Jesus?


      >I believe there will be a resurrection of the just and the unjust,
      > but only those who are in Christ will be raised to life, or raised
      > in life, the rest will be raised to judgment.
      >
      > By raised to judgment, I believe that they will be raised to live
      > under just rulers. These just rulers are the overcomers, those ones
      > who Christ gives power over the nations, to rule with a rod of iron.
      > Those who sit with Christ upon his throne, just as he sits with the
      > Father upon his throne.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In TrinityQuestion@yahoogroups.com, applsaucefactory@... wrote:
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> In a message dated 12/30/2008 10:46:27 A.M. Central Standard
      > Time,
      >> THardesty@... writes:
      >>
      >> <<There is nothing to indicate that there are two resurrections,
      >> one resurrection for the "just" and another resurrection for
      >> the "unjust." "All that are in the graves" is referring to the
      >> literally dead. There is no reason for not taking these words
      >> of Jesus literally. References to being "in the grave" through-
      >> out Scripture consistently refer to the literally dead, not
      >> the "spiritually" dead, and the words of Peter are even more
      >> conclusive by saying "there shall be a resurrection of the
      >> dead, both of the just and unjust." Even if you spiritualize
      >> these words of Peter to say it's referring to the spiritually
      >> dead and not the literally dead, it still shows only one
      >> resurrection for BOTH the just and the unjust - not one
      >> resurrection for the just and another one for the unjust.>>
      >>
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      >> there are two resurrections- but not one for the just and one for
      > the
      >> unjust- both are for the just- the first when they rise to new
      > life in christ- and
      >> the seconds when they rise from death to forever be with their
      > lord (of
      >> course they are not just until they actually rise to new life in
      > christ)
      >>
      >> <<As I previously mentioned, there are many references to
      >> "the day of judgment" which clearly indicates there will be
      >> "one day" when all are judged>>
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      >> atually the bible talks about many days of judgment
      >>
      >> <<- not an ongoing judgment, and that day is the day that Christ
      > returns to
      >> the earth,>>
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      >> well first of all- there is no scripture that says that jesus
      > returns to
      >> this earth appears
      >> unto all,
      >>
      >> second of all- no where does the scripture talk about a judgment
      > occuring
      >> when christ appears
      >>
      >> <<and "all that are in the graves," "both the just and the
      > unjust," shall
      >> hear his voice, and everyone who is literally dead will be
      > literally
      >> resurrected from death and judged. I think it's clear this is what
      > Scripture actually
      >> tells us.>>
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      >> well, as you say- we will have to disagree
      >>
      >> - the apple
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    • Sea
      I like that song. Haven t heard it for ages. Shalom Sea ... From: applsaucefactory@aol.com To: TrinityQuestion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 22,
      Message 472 of 472 , Jan 23, 2009
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        I like that song.  Haven't heard it for ages.
         
        Shalom
         
        Sea
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:10 AM
        Subject: Re: [TrinityQuestion] Re: Worship Jesus?

         
         
        In a message dated 1/21/2009 5:30:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, seawife@... writes:
        Well I would be dead because I can't stand pomegranates. And no way would I
        ever be tempted by an apple. I would not have made a good Eve. Or a bad
        one I guess. I would have been eating the mangos. And the peaches.
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        well, we cannot be tempted by that which does not tempt us- so for you it would have been a mango or a peach ;-)
         
        c'mon a my house, a my house, i'ma gona give you an apple, and a pair and a peach and a.....
         
        - the apple 

         


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