10925Re: Ransomville Figure 8
- Sep 2, 2006Thanks Will,
So if I understand you correctly...
-I have already seen many races at Ransomville.
-I had never seen anything on the inner oval and I really don't know
if countable racing has ever occured on it.
-So by what you said in the next to last paragraph, I could count
the inner oval?
I'm just an amatuer in track chasing, as many years of working on a
race team kept me at the same 3 tracks weekly, but I'm more in it as
a friendly competition w/ some friends....but we do try to use your
rules as a guideline.
Thanks for the great site and track information!
--- In TrackChasers@yahoogroups.com, Will White <trackchaser@...>
> Thanks for explaining the new Ransomville track layout to the
> The Ransomville "figure eight", as they call it, is actually a
> "double-0" and therefore falls under the "multiple oval" area of
> TrackChaser rules. For our purposes, a figure 8 is a track with anups that
> intersection where the cars change direction at some point. In a
> double-0 (or "flagpole") race they continue to turn in the same
> direction (left or right) all the way around the course.
> The rule is pretty vague, and I believe it should be kept that way
> because the tracks can come up with so many possible future set-
> we couldn't think of them all in advance. However, I think it willhelp
> if I try to give everyone an idea of how I will rule in theseare used
> situations. To date, double-0 tracks have mainly consisted of a
> permanent outer/inner oval combination, where 2 existing tracks
> to former the course. In this case, I am ruling that anyone whohas
> already counted either the outer or inner oval can count thedouble-0 as
> the oval they don't already have. As the rule states, no one cancount a
> third track in addition to the 2 ovals. If you don't already haveeither
> of the 2 ovals, then you can count the double-0 as one of them(but not
> According to the rule, we cannot count a double-0 "in addition to
> track or tracks that comprise it". My interpretation of this isthat if
> one of the ovals that makes up the course is not an actual activetrack
> then you can't count the double-0 as a second track, only as afirst
> track. This also applies to any flagpole race, since there is onlyone
> real track used in a flagpole race.be
> Ransomville used a permanent, active kart track as the inner oval
> portion of their double-0. My ruling is that both tracks have to
> active as regular ovals for motor racing, but they don't have tooval
> necessarily hold countable racing as regular ovals. The countable
> would take precedence over the noncountable oval in counting it asa
> "first" track. Thus, at Ransomville, if you had no previous tracksand
> only saw the double-0, you could count it as the outer oval. Ifyou had
> no previous tracks and saw both the double-0 and regular (outer)oval
> racing then you can count two tracks (outer oval and inner oval).If it
> was possible to already have 2 ovals at Ransomville (did they everhave
> countable racing on the inner oval?) then you couldn't count theto
> double-0 as a new track.
> This case reminds me that I never did add the "Track Rulings" page
> the trackchaser.com web site. I realize it can be frustrating togo to
> one of these events, find that what they called a "figure 8"really
> wasn't, and go away not knowing if you saw anything that counts asa new
> track. Hopefully by posting some of my rulings and rulesinterpretations
> on the web site I'll be able to reduce the confusion somewhat.pleased to
> Will White
> TrackChaser Commissioner
> Paul Brauer wrote:
> > Last night while walking in the pits at Ransomville I was
> > learn that there was going to be a figure 8 race. Immediatelya
> > the "new track" lightbulb went off!
> > As you may know, Ransomville has an inner oval that I believe is
> > kart track...which shares the front stretch w/ the big track.Well
> > the "Figure 8" consisted of starting the (5 enduro-style) carson the
> > back stretch of the big track. The cars raced thru turns 3&4,to the
> > front stretch, where they dropped on to the inner oval, made alap
> > around it, and then back on to the big track, thru 1&2, etc.They
> > probably ran 10 laps like this. Seemed more like a "Figure Q"to me!
> >Figure "Q"?...The
> > My question is: What is a countable track? The
> > inner oval?...Both?...Neither?
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