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  • James Zitting
    No I m very impressed with bee pods, and obviously I share your vision of helping the American families become more self sufficient. I think this plastic one
    Message 1 of 23 , Mar 31, 2010
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      No I'm very impressed with bee pods, and obviously I share your vision of helping the American families become more self sufficient. I think this plastic one for $700. Is a joke. However I find it interesting that a big company feels like there is a market for it.

      James Zitting

      www.beelanding.com<http://www.beelanding.com>



      From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ColbyDog
      Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:55 PM
      To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [TopHive] Re: Beepods- new TBH for sale from Milwaukee Wisconsin



      Crazy cool... was just looking at their chicken coops last night... we're trying to get hens in the city next. THis might be a bit over-the-top

      Hopefully y'all don't hink beepods are too hoity-toity... we're just a couple a joes from milwaukee... not a giant multinational... using the family's business during the night to make beehives...

      thanks for your comments james

      --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>, James Zitting <james@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hey great looking hive!
      >
      > Check out this hive. https://www.omlet.co.uk/shop/shop.php?cat=Beekeeping&sub=Beehaus in dollars it is just under $700.00
      >
      > James Zitting
      >
      > www.beelanding.com<http://www.beelanding.com>
      >
      >
      >
      > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of ColbyDog
      > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:08 PM
      > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: [TopHive] Beepods- new TBH for sale from Milwaukee Wisconsin
      >
      >
      >
      > Hello Members,
      >
      > Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
      > allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this TBH for purchase...
      >
      > I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as well as a hybrid
      > developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this new design does...
      >
      > now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into production in less than two weeks...
      > as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not content rich.... thats coming.
      > We'd like your feedback at least...
      >
      > go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
      > its only three days old...
      > not even at the larva stage ;-)
      >
      > ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
      > ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from Wisconsin USA
      > ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your favorite phillips screwdriver.
      > ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
      > ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
      > ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
      > ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for winter
      > ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
      > ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
      > ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks and a handle
      > ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a customer knowledgebase
      >
      > we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
      > we could certainly use your help and input.
      >
      > I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory price of $270
      >
      > as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is in sight...
      > we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn communities
      > back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
      >
      > What say???
      >
      > Thanks in advance for your time and input....
      >
      > charbee
      > colbydog@...<mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
      > milwaukee, WI
      >
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >



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    • ColbyDog
      Hey James, I like your product and website too! Nice combination of langstroth and TBH... an excellent choice for those who already have spinners and
      Message 2 of 23 , Apr 1, 2010
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        Hey James, I like your product and website too!

        Nice combination of langstroth and TBH...
        an excellent choice for those who already have spinners and commercial gear.

        I'll happily refer existing beekers to you for a logical integration to TBH

        I agree that those plastic hives are a total joke... as are their chicken coops... some people must just have nothing but money... likely paying someone to work em too...

        Far as I'm concerned... the bees need all the help they can get... I welcome any competent product... and yours certainly seems to bee one. The key to raising awareness of this "new" ancient method of beeking... is the educational component. The people who are coming online about the peril of the bees do not have experience... and beeking is not like buying a table... so the more we beekers can help get the masses online the better the chance of survival for the bees.

        How bout the rest of the group... anyone care to chime in with their favorite site for educating TBH beekers ... best book to recommend?
      • Christy Hemenway
        Good morning, All -- Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010! While we re comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please feel free
        Message 3 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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          Good morning, All --

          Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!

          While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
          feel free to have a look at this site:

          www.goldstarhoneybees.com

          It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.

          We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
          in stock.

          -- Christy Hemenway
          GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
          "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
          207-449-1121
          www.goldstarhoneybees.com

          Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
          Green Business by the Green Business Network
          www.greenamericatoday.org

          On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:

          > Hello Members,
          >
          > Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
          > allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
          > TBH for purchase...
          >
          > I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
          > well as a hybrid
          > developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
          > new design does...
          >
          > now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
          > production in less than two weeks...
          > as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
          > content rich.... thats coming.
          > We'd like your feedback at least...
          >
          > go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
          > its only three days old...
          > not even at the larva stage ;-)
          >
          > � machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
          > � 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
          > Wisconsin USA
          > � assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
          > favorite phillips screwdriver.
          > � super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
          > � comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
          > � sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
          > � screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
          > winter
          > � two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
          > � 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
          > � lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
          > and a handle
          > � and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
          > customer knowledgebase
          >
          > we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
          > we could certainly use your help and input.
          >
          > I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
          > price of $270
          >
          > as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
          > in sight...
          > we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
          > communities
          > back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
          >
          > What say???
          >
          > Thanks in advance for your time and input....
          >
          > charbee
          > colbydog@...
          > milwaukee, WI
          >
          >
          >



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        • P.H. Rankin Hansen
          Cripes! $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10! Ping. venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H Peter H. Rankin Hansen Stjærvej 15,
          Message 4 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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            Cripes!

            $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!

            Ping.

            venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

            Peter H. Rankin Hansen
            Stjærvej 15, Storring
            DK-8464 Galten
            Danmark

            (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

            Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


            On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
            > Good morning, All --
            >
            > Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
            >
            > While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
            > feel free to have a look at this site:
            >
            > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
            >
            > It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
            >
            > We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
            > in stock.
            >
            > -- Christy Hemenway
            > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
            > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
            > 207-449-1121
            > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
            >
            > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
            > Green Business by the Green Business Network
            > www.greenamericatoday.org
            >
            > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
            >
            >
            >> Hello Members,
            >>
            >> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
            >> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
            >> TBH for purchase...
            >>
            >> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
            >> well as a hybrid
            >> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
            >> new design does...
            >>
            >> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
            >> production in less than two weeks...
            >> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
            >> content rich.... thats coming.
            >> We'd like your feedback at least...
            >>
            >> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
            >> its only three days old...
            >> not even at the larva stage ;-)
            >>
            >> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
            >> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
            >> Wisconsin USA
            >> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
            >> favorite phillips screwdriver.
            >> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
            >> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
            >> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
            >> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
            >> winter
            >> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
            >> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
            >> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
            >> and a handle
            >> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
            >> customer knowledgebase
            >>
            >> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
            >> we could certainly use your help and input.
            >>
            >> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
            >> price of $270
            >>
            >> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
            >> in sight...
            >> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
            >> communities
            >> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
            >>
            >> What say???
            >>
            >> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
            >>
            >> charbee
            >> colbydog@...
            >> milwaukee, WI
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >
            > ------------------------------------
            >
            > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
            >
          • P.H. Rankin Hansen
            And while we are at it: The legs look rather wobbly to me Ping. venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H Peter H. Rankin Hansen Stjærvej 15,
            Message 5 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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              And while we are at it: The legs look rather wobbly to me

              Ping.

              venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

              Peter H. Rankin Hansen
              Stjærvej 15, Storring
              DK-8464 Galten
              Danmark

              (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

              Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


              On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
              > Good morning, All --
              >
              > Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
              >
              > While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
              > feel free to have a look at this site:
              >
              > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
              >
              > It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
              >
              > We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
              > in stock.
              >
              > -- Christy Hemenway
              > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
              > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
              > 207-449-1121
              > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
              >
              > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
              > Green Business by the Green Business Network
              > www.greenamericatoday.org
              >
              > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
              >
              >
              >> Hello Members,
              >>
              >> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
              >> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
              >> TBH for purchase...
              >>
              >> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
              >> well as a hybrid
              >> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
              >> new design does...
              >>
              >> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
              >> production in less than two weeks...
              >> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
              >> content rich.... thats coming.
              >> We'd like your feedback at least...
              >>
              >> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
              >> its only three days old...
              >> not even at the larva stage ;-)
              >>
              >> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
              >> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
              >> Wisconsin USA
              >> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
              >> favorite phillips screwdriver.
              >> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
              >> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
              >> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
              >> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
              >> winter
              >> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
              >> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
              >> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
              >> and a handle
              >> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
              >> customer knowledgebase
              >>
              >> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
              >> we could certainly use your help and input.
              >>
              >> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
              >> price of $270
              >>
              >> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
              >> in sight...
              >> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
              >> communities
              >> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
              >>
              >> What say???
              >>
              >> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
              >>
              >> charbee
              >> colbydog@...
              >> milwaukee, WI
              >>
              >>
              >>
              >>
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------
              >
              > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >
            • James Zitting
              Peter, Come on now. You know you can t build that for $10! You may be able to scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like these hives.
              Message 6 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                Peter,

                Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be able to
                scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like these
                hives.

                There are people out there who want a professionally built hive without
                having to build it themselves.


                James

                -----Original Message-----
                From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                P.H. Rankin Hansen
                Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the Gold
                Star Top Bar Hive

                Cripes!

                $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!

                Ping.

                venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

                Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                Stjærvej 15, Storring
                DK-8464 Galten
                Danmark

                (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

                Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


                On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                > Good morning, All --
                >
                > Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                >
                > While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
                > feel free to have a look at this site:
                >
                > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                >
                > It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                >
                > We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
                > in stock.
                >
                > -- Christy Hemenway
                > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                > 207-449-1121
                > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                >
                > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                > www.greenamericatoday.org
                >
                > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                >
                >
                >> Hello Members,
                >>
                >> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                >> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
                >> TBH for purchase...
                >>
                >> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
                >> well as a hybrid
                >> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
                >> new design does...
                >>
                >> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                >> production in less than two weeks...
                >> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
                >> content rich.... thats coming.
                >> We'd like your feedback at least...
                >>
                >> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
                >> its only three days old...
                >> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                >>
                >> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                >> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                >> Wisconsin USA
                >> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                >> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                >> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
                >> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                >> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                >> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
                >> winter
                >> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                >> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                >> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
                >> and a handle
                >> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                >> customer knowledgebase
                >>
                >> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                >> we could certainly use your help and input.
                >>
                >> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                >> price of $270
                >>
                >> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
                >> in sight...
                >> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                >> communities
                >> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                >>
                >> What say???
                >>
                >> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                >>
                >> charbee
                >> colbydog@...
                >> milwaukee, WI
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >>
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >
                >
                >
                > ------------------------------------
                >
                > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                >
                >


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              • P.H. Rankin Hansen
                I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I can e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I m sitting looking across
                Message 7 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                  I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I can
                  e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm sitting
                  looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked with
                  pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It needs
                  very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                  hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                  stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we have
                  some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                  window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.

                  Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is even more
                  fun.

                  Ping.

                  venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

                  Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                  Stjærvej 15, Storring
                  DK-8464 Galten
                  Danmark

                  (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

                  Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


                  On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                  > Peter,
                  >
                  > Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be able to
                  > scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like these
                  > hives.
                  >
                  > There are people out there who want a professionally built hive without
                  > having to build it themselves.
                  >
                  >
                  > James
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                  > P.H. Rankin Hansen
                  > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                  > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the Gold
                  > Star Top Bar Hive
                  >
                  > Cripes!
                  >
                  > $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                  >
                  > Ping.
                  >
                  > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                  >
                  > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                  > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                  > DK-8464 Galten
                  > Danmark
                  >
                  > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                  >
                  > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                  >
                  >
                  > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                  >
                  >> Good morning, All --
                  >>
                  >> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                  >>
                  >> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
                  >> feel free to have a look at this site:
                  >>
                  >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                  >>
                  >> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                  >>
                  >> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
                  >> in stock.
                  >>
                  >> -- Christy Hemenway
                  >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                  >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                  >> 207-449-1121
                  >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                  >>
                  >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                  >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                  >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                  >>
                  >> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>> Hello Members,
                  >>>
                  >>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                  >>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
                  >>> TBH for purchase...
                  >>>
                  >>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
                  >>> well as a hybrid
                  >>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
                  >>> new design does...
                  >>>
                  >>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                  >>> production in less than two weeks...
                  >>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
                  >>> content rich.... thats coming.
                  >>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                  >>>
                  >>> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
                  >>> its only three days old...
                  >>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                  >>>
                  >>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                  >>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                  >>> Wisconsin USA
                  >>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                  >>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                  >>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
                  >>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                  >>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                  >>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
                  >>> winter
                  >>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                  >>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                  >>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
                  >>> and a handle
                  >>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                  >>> customer knowledgebase
                  >>>
                  >>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                  >>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                  >>>
                  >>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                  >>> price of $270
                  >>>
                  >>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
                  >>> in sight...
                  >>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                  >>> communities
                  >>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                  >>>
                  >>> What say???
                  >>>
                  >>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                  >>>
                  >>> charbee
                  >>> colbydog@...
                  >>> milwaukee, WI
                  >>>
                  >>>
                  >>>
                  >>>
                  >>>
                  >>
                  >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> ------------------------------------
                  >>
                  >> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                  >>
                  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                  >
                  >> Yahoo! Groups Links
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >
                  > ------------------------------------
                  >
                  > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > ------------------------------------
                  >
                  > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                  > Yahoo! Groups Links
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                • Gord Campbell
                  Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or sprayed with insecticides. They re not marked as to which method was used, so it s safer all
                  Message 8 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                    Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                    sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                    used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.

                    Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her product
                    at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                    building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at her
                    hives like this.

                    Cheers,
                    .....G

                    On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                    >
                    > I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I can
                    > e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm sitting
                    > looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked with
                    > pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It needs
                    > very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                    > hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                    > stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we have
                    > some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                    > window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                    >
                    > Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is even more
                    > fun.
                    >
                    > Ping.
                    >
                    > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                    >
                    > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                    > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                    > DK-8464 Galten
                    > Danmark
                    >
                    > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                    >
                    > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                    >
                    > On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                    > > Peter,
                    > >
                    > > Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be able to
                    > > scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like these
                    > > hives.
                    > >
                    > > There are people out there who want a professionally built hive without
                    > > having to build it themselves.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > James
                    > >
                    > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                    > Behalf Of
                    > > P.H. Rankin Hansen
                    > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                    > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the
                    > Gold
                    > > Star Top Bar Hive
                    > >
                    > > Cripes!
                    > >
                    > > $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                    > >
                    > > Ping.
                    > >
                    > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                    > >
                    > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                    > > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                    > > DK-8464 Galten
                    > > Danmark
                    > >
                    > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                    > >
                    > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                    > >
                    > >> Good morning, All --
                    > >>
                    > >> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                    > >>
                    > >> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
                    > >> feel free to have a look at this site:
                    > >>
                    > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                    > >>
                    > >> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                    > >>
                    > >> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory
                    > >> in stock.
                    > >>
                    > >> -- Christy Hemenway
                    > >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                    > >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                    > >> 207-449-1121
                    > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                    > >>
                    > >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                    > >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                    > >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                    > >>
                    > >> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>> Hello Members,
                    > >>>
                    > >>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                    > >>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
                    > >>> TBH for purchase...
                    > >>>
                    > >>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
                    > >>> well as a hybrid
                    > >>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
                    > >>> new design does...
                    > >>>
                    > >>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                    > >>> production in less than two weeks...
                    > >>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
                    > >>> content rich.... thats coming.
                    > >>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                    > >>>
                    > >>> go to http://www.beepods.com <http://www.beepods.com> and remember...
                    > >>> its only three days old...
                    > >>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                    > >>>
                    > >>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                    > >>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                    > >>> Wisconsin USA
                    > >>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                    > >>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                    > >>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
                    > >>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                    > >>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                    > >>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
                    > >>> winter
                    > >>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                    > >>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                    > >>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
                    > >>> and a handle
                    > >>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                    > >>> customer knowledgebase
                    > >>>
                    > >>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                    > >>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                    > >>>
                    > >>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                    > >>> price of $270
                    > >>>
                    > >>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
                    > >>> in sight...
                    > >>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                    > >>> communities
                    > >>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                    > >>>
                    > >>> What say???
                    > >>>
                    > >>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                    > >>>
                    > >>> charbee
                    > >>> colbydog@... <mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                    > >>> milwaukee, WI
                    > >>>
                    > >>>
                    > >>>
                    > >>>
                    > >>>
                    > >>
                    > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >> ------------------------------------
                    > >>
                    > >> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                    > >>
                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                    > >
                    > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >>
                    > >
                    > > ------------------------------------
                    > >
                    > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                    > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ------------------------------------
                    > >
                    > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                    > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >

                    --
                    Gord Campbell
                    Beekeeper - Partner
                    Seldom Fools Apiculture <http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                    Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                    CANADA
                    gord@... <mailto:gord@...>
                    Phone: +1.613.530-5662

                    Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar apiaries.



                    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  • Christy Hemenway
                    Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and here s some more on the
                    Message 9 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                      Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                      being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                      here's some more on the subject.

                      For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                      keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                      For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                      assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                      best part.

                      At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the different
                      mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                      resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                      healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                      think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                      hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                      to us.

                      We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the "Gold
                      Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with non-
                      toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                      interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                      Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                      interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit, your
                      top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                      Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                      this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                      mainstream and less "whacko".

                      I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and again,
                      we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                      here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out to
                      be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                      paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if you
                      are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                      pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.

                      As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                      found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                      well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year and
                      disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                      building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                      outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                      look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                      that people can accept as legitimate.

                      Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.

                      -- Christy Hemenway
                      GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                      "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                      207-449-1121
                      www.goldstarhoneybees.com

                      Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                      Green Business by the Green Business Network
                      www.greenamericatoday.org

                      On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:

                      > Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                      > sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                      > used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                      >
                      > Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                      > product
                      > at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                      > building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at her
                      > hives like this.
                      >
                      > Cheers,
                      > .....G
                      >
                      > On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                      > can
                      > > e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                      > sitting
                      > > looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                      > with
                      > > pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                      > needs
                      > > very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                      > > hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                      > > stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                      > have
                      > > some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                      > > window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                      > >
                      > > Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                      > even more
                      > > fun.
                      > >
                      > > Ping.
                      > >
                      > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                      > >
                      > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                      > > Stj�rvej 15, Storring
                      > > DK-8464 Galten
                      > > Danmark
                      > >
                      > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                      > >
                      > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                      > >
                      > > On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                      > > > Peter,
                      > > >
                      > > > Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                      > able to
                      > > > scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                      > these
                      > > > hives.
                      > > >
                      > > > There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                      > without
                      > > > having to build it themselves.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > James
                      > > >
                      > > > -----Original Message-----
                      > > > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive
                      > %40yahoogroups.com>] On
                      > > Behalf Of
                      > > > P.H. Rankin Hansen
                      > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                      > > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                      > the
                      > > Gold
                      > > > Star Top Bar Hive
                      > > >
                      > > > Cripes!
                      > > >
                      > > > $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                      > > >
                      > > > Ping.
                      > > >
                      > > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                      > > >
                      > > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                      > > > Stj�rvej 15, Storring
                      > > > DK-8464 Galten
                      > > > Danmark
                      > > >
                      > > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                      > > >
                      > > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > >> Good morning, All --
                      > > >>
                      > > >> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                      > > >>
                      > > >> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                      > please
                      > > >> feel free to have a look at this site:
                      > > >>
                      > > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                      > > >>
                      > > >> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                      > > >>
                      > > >> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                      > inventory
                      > > >> in stock.
                      > > >>
                      > > >> -- Christy Hemenway
                      > > >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                      > > >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                      > > >> 207-449-1121
                      > > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                      > > >>
                      > > >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                      > as a
                      > > >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                      > > >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                      > > >>
                      > > >> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>> Hello Members,
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                      > > >>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                      > this
                      > > >>> TBH for purchase...
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                      > TBHs as
                      > > >>> well as a hybrid
                      > > >>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                      > this
                      > > >>> new design does...
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                      > > >>> production in less than two weeks...
                      > > >>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                      > not
                      > > >>> content rich.... thats coming.
                      > > >>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> go to http://www.beepods.com <http://www.beepods.com> and
                      > remember...
                      > > >>> its only three days old...
                      > > >>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> � machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                      > > >>> � 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out
                      > from
                      > > >>> Wisconsin USA
                      > > >>> � assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                      > > >>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                      > > >>> � super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                      > fasteners
                      > > >>> � comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                      > > >>> � sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                      > > >>> � screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                      > board for
                      > > >>> winter
                      > > >>> � two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                      > > >>> � 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                      > > >>> � lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                      > hooks
                      > > >>> and a handle
                      > > >>> � and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                      > > >>> customer knowledgebase
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                      > > >>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                      > > >>> price of $270
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                      > end is
                      > > >>> in sight...
                      > > >>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                      > > >>> communities
                      > > >>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> What say???
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>> charbee
                      > > >>> colbydog@... <mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                      > > >>> milwaukee, WI
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>>
                      > > >>
                      > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >> ------------------------------------
                      > > >>
                      > > >> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                      > > >>
                      > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                      > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                      > > >
                      > > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >>
                      > > >
                      > > > ------------------------------------
                      > > >
                      > > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                      > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                      > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                      > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > ------------------------------------
                      > > >
                      > > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                      > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                      > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
                      > --
                      > Gord Campbell
                      > Beekeeper - Partner
                      > Seldom Fools Apiculture <http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                      > Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                      > CANADA
                      > gord@... <mailto:gord@...>
                      > Phone: +1.613.530-5662
                      >
                      > Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar apiaries.
                      >
                      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >
                      >
                      >



                      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    • owlsplace
                      Yes, the legs do look a bit on the weak side. I think the market will become more competitive as garden beekeeping becomes more popular. If I was going for the
                      Message 10 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
                      • 0 Attachment
                        Yes, the legs do look a bit on the weak side. I think the market will become more competitive as garden beekeeping becomes more popular.
                        If I was going for the big bucks I would be looking for complete kits with bees... :)
                        I think there is a market here for city people who don't have the time or ability to make their own hives.
                        Wish you well in your enterprise, Christy.
                        Roger at Steamboat Springs, NV

                        --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "P.H. Rankin Hansen" <ping@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > And while we are at it: The legs look rather wobbly to me
                        > > Ping.
                        > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                        > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                        > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                        > DK-8464 Galten
                        > Danmark
                        ...
                        > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                        > > Good morning, All --
                        > >> > Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                        > >> > While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please> > feel free to have a look at this site:
                        > >> > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                        > >> > It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                        > >> > We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have inventory> > in stock.
                        > >> > -- Christy Hemenway
                        > > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                        > > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                        > > 207-449-1121
                        > > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                        > >
                        > > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                        > > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                        > > www.greenamericatoday.org
                        > >
                        > > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >> Hello Members,
                        > >>
                        > >> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                        > >> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced this
                        > >> TBH for purchase...
                        > >>
                        > >> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
                        > >> well as a hybrid
                        > >> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what this
                        > >> new design does...
                        > >>
                        > >> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                        > >> production in less than two weeks...
                        > >> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
                        > >> content rich.... thats coming.
                        > >> We'd like your feedback at least...
                        > >>
                        > >> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
                        > >> its only three days old...
                        > >> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                        > >>
                        > >> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                        > >> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                        > >> Wisconsin USA
                        > >> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                        > >> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                        > >> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
                        > >> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                        > >> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                        > >> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board for
                        > >> winter
                        > >> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                        > >> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                        > >> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure hooks
                        > >> and a handle
                        > >> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                        > >> customer knowledgebase
                        > >>
                        > >> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                        > >> we could certainly use your help and input.
                        > >>
                        > >> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                        > >> price of $270
                        > >>
                        > >> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
                        > >> in sight...
                        > >> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                        > >> communities
                        > >> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                        > >>
                        > >> What say???
                        > >>
                        > >> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                        > >>
                        > >> charbee
                        > >> colbydog@...
                        > >> milwaukee, WI
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > ------------------------------------
                        > >
                        > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                        > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        >
                      • tomzboxathotmaildotcom
                        ... No ducking! You have a great product and the correct, green, sustainable philosophy to go with it! For folks who can t build their own, yours is a top o
                        Message 11 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                          --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, Christy Hemenway <christy@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Wow - I should have ducked!

                          No ducking! You have a great product and the correct, green, sustainable philosophy to go with it! For folks who can't build their own, yours is a top o' the line choice!

                          I DO build my own, based upon Phil Chandler's design plus ruthlessly stolen ides from you (polycab windows), hirschbach (entrances and landing boards), Murrell (dimensions), and others. Mine cost me roughly $50 ea. A fully equipped store-bought Lang will end up costing $450 unless one is very very frugal. Nick Hamilton's Warre's run around $300 I think. So your Gold Star Hive is competitive; particularly with the features you include.

                          I like your new gabled roofs, since they are similar to my own. <g> My first ones were too heavy, even using thin paneling for the rooftops; so I switched to corrugated plastic panels over a simple wood frame and gables. The notes elsewhere on this thread seem to indicate you have plastic roofs on the Gold Star Hive, but the pics look like lumber. What are you using and what are your experiences with the new roofs?

                          best,
                          Tom Warren
                          Pleasant Hill, OR
                          http://awholenotherbeeblog.blogspot.com/
                        • P.H. Rankin Hansen
                          I certainly wish you luck with marketing the hives. If you can get that much for a hive, then more power to you - I d certainly be laughing all the way to the
                          Message 12 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                            I certainly wish you luck with marketing the hives. If you can get that
                            much for a hive, then more power to you - I'd certainly be laughing all
                            the way to the bank ;o)

                            But please consider using a thicker dimension for the legs. Fresh wood
                            is very resilient, but in a few years time, I fear that a fully loaded
                            hive will collapse the legs, if you accidentally give it a push from the
                            side/end. As it is, it looks as if the hive will wobble in the slightest
                            breeze. Not good for bees in a winter cluster.

                            BTW: Pallets here are NOT treated with pesticides. Not permitted.

                            Ping.

                            venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

                            Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                            Stjærvej 15, Storring
                            DK-8464 Galten
                            Danmark

                            (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

                            Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


                            On 19-04-2010 16:11, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                            > Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                            > being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                            > here's some more on the subject.
                            >
                            > For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                            > keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                            > For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                            > assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                            > best part.
                            >
                            > At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the different
                            > mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                            > resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                            > healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                            > think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                            > hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                            > to us.
                            >
                            > We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the "Gold
                            > Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with non-
                            > toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                            > interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                            > Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                            > interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit, your
                            > top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                            > Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                            > this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                            > mainstream and less "whacko".
                            >
                            > I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and again,
                            > we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                            > here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out to
                            > be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                            > paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if you
                            > are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                            > pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.
                            >
                            > As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                            > found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                            > well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year and
                            > disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                            > building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                            > outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                            > look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                            > that people can accept as legitimate.
                            >
                            > Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.
                            >
                            > -- Christy Hemenway
                            > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                            > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                            > 207-449-1121
                            > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                            >
                            > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                            > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                            > www.greenamericatoday.org
                            >
                            > On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            >> Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                            >> sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                            >> used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                            >>
                            >> Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                            >> product
                            >> at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                            >> building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at her
                            >> hives like this.
                            >>
                            >> Cheers,
                            >> .....G
                            >>
                            >> On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                            >>
                            >>> I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                            >>>
                            >> can
                            >>
                            >>> e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                            >>>
                            >> sitting
                            >>
                            >>> looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                            >>>
                            >> with
                            >>
                            >>> pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                            >>>
                            >> needs
                            >>
                            >>> very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                            >>> hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                            >>> stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                            >>>
                            >> have
                            >>
                            >>> some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                            >>> window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                            >>>
                            >>> Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                            >>>
                            >> even more
                            >>
                            >>> fun.
                            >>>
                            >>> Ping.
                            >>>
                            >>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                            >>>
                            >>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                            >>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                            >>> DK-8464 Galten
                            >>> Danmark
                            >>>
                            >>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                            >>>
                            >>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                            >>>
                            >>> On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                            >>>
                            >>>> Peter,
                            >>>>
                            >>>> Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                            >>>>
                            >> able to
                            >>
                            >>>> scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                            >>>>
                            >> these
                            >>
                            >>>> hives.
                            >>>>
                            >>>> There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                            >>>>
                            >> without
                            >>
                            >>>> having to build it themselves.
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>> James
                            >>>>
                            >>>> -----Original Message-----
                            >>>> From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >>>>
                            >>> [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive
                            >>>
                            >> %40yahoogroups.com>] On
                            >>
                            >>> Behalf Of
                            >>>
                            >>>> P.H. Rankin Hansen
                            >>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                            >>>> To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >>>> Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                            >>>>
                            >> the
                            >>
                            >>> Gold
                            >>>
                            >>>> Star Top Bar Hive
                            >>>>
                            >>>> Cripes!
                            >>>>
                            >>>> $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                            >>>>
                            >>>> Ping.
                            >>>>
                            >>>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                            >>>>
                            >>>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                            >>>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                            >>>> DK-8464 Galten
                            >>>> Danmark
                            >>>>
                            >>>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                            >>>>
                            >>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>> On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>> Good morning, All --
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                            >>>>>
                            >> please
                            >>
                            >>>>> feel free to have a look at this site:
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                            >>>>>
                            >> inventory
                            >>
                            >>>>> in stock.
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> -- Christy Hemenway
                            >>>>> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                            >>>>> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                            >>>>> 207-449-1121
                            >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                            >>>>>
                            >> as a
                            >>
                            >>>>> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                            >>>>> www.greenamericatoday.org
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>> Hello Members,
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                            >>>>>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                            >>>>>>
                            >> this
                            >>
                            >>>>>> TBH for purchase...
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                            >>>>>>
                            >> TBHs as
                            >>
                            >>>>>> well as a hybrid
                            >>>>>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                            >>>>>>
                            >> this
                            >>
                            >>>>>> new design does...
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                            >>>>>> production in less than two weeks...
                            >>>>>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                            >>>>>>
                            >> not
                            >>
                            >>>>>> content rich.... thats coming.
                            >>>>>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> go to http://www.beepods.com<http://www.beepods.com> and
                            >>>>>>
                            >> remember...
                            >>
                            >>>>>> its only three days old...
                            >>>>>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                            >>>>>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out
                            >>>>>>
                            >> from
                            >>
                            >>>>>> Wisconsin USA
                            >>>>>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                            >>>>>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                            >>>>>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                            >>>>>>
                            >> fasteners
                            >>
                            >>>>>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                            >>>>>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                            >>>>>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                            >>>>>>
                            >> board for
                            >>
                            >>>>>> winter
                            >>>>>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                            >>>>>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                            >>>>>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                            >>>>>>
                            >> hooks
                            >>
                            >>>>>> and a handle
                            >>>>>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                            >>>>>> customer knowledgebase
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                            >>>>>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                            >>>>>> price of $270
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                            >>>>>>
                            >> end is
                            >>
                            >>>>>> in sight...
                            >>>>>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                            >>>>>> communities
                            >>>>>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> What say???
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>> charbee
                            >>>>>> colbydog@...<mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                            >>>>>> milwaukee, WI
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>>>
                            >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
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                            >>>>>
                            >>>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                            >>>>
                            >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                            >>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
                            >>>>>
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                            >>>>
                            >>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                            >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                            >>>>
                            >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                            >>>
                            >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
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                            >>>>
                            >>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                            >>>>
                            >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                            >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                            >>>
                            >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>>
                            >>>
                            >>>
                            >> --
                            >> Gord Campbell
                            >> Beekeeper - Partner
                            >> Seldom Fools Apiculture<http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                            >> Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                            >> CANADA
                            >> gord@...<mailto:gord@...>
                            >> Phone: +1.613.530-5662
                            >>
                            >> Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar apiaries.
                            >>
                            >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >>
                            >>
                            >>
                            >>
                            >
                            >
                            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >
                            >
                            >
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                            >
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                            > Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                          • James Zitting
                            Hey Peter, (or would you rather go by Dick) Your completely missing the point. She is not building hives for the DIY like yourself. As far as your engineering
                            Message 13 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                              Hey Peter, (or would you rather go by Dick)

                              Your completely missing the point. She is not building hives for the DIY
                              like yourself.
                              As far as your engineering questions go. They sound like they are more of an
                              opinion than calculations.
                              What are you doing constructive for the world? Make a hive and sell it. This
                              world needs more hive builders and promoters. You can cater to the market
                              that wants cheap hives.
                              When you throw rocks at your neighbors hive you might get stung.

                              James



                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                              P.H. Rankin Hansen
                              Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
                              To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the Gold
                              Star Top Bar Hive

                              I certainly wish you luck with marketing the hives. If you can get that
                              much for a hive, then more power to you - I'd certainly be laughing all
                              the way to the bank ;o)

                              But please consider using a thicker dimension for the legs. Fresh wood
                              is very resilient, but in a few years time, I fear that a fully loaded
                              hive will collapse the legs, if you accidentally give it a push from the
                              side/end. As it is, it looks as if the hive will wobble in the slightest
                              breeze. Not good for bees in a winter cluster.

                              BTW: Pallets here are NOT treated with pesticides. Not permitted.

                              Ping.

                              venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

                              Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                              Stjærvej 15, Storring
                              DK-8464 Galten
                              Danmark

                              (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

                              Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.


                              On 19-04-2010 16:11, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                              > Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                              > being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                              > here's some more on the subject.
                              >
                              > For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                              > keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                              > For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                              > assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                              > best part.
                              >
                              > At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the different
                              > mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                              > resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                              > healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                              > think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                              > hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                              > to us.
                              >
                              > We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the "Gold
                              > Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with non-
                              > toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                              > interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                              > Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                              > interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit, your
                              > top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                              > Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                              > this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                              > mainstream and less "whacko".
                              >
                              > I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and again,
                              > we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                              > here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out to
                              > be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                              > paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if you
                              > are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                              > pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.
                              >
                              > As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                              > found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                              > well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year and
                              > disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                              > building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                              > outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                              > look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                              > that people can accept as legitimate.
                              >
                              > Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.
                              >
                              > -- Christy Hemenway
                              > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                              > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                              > 207-449-1121
                              > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                              >
                              > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                              > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                              > www.greenamericatoday.org
                              >
                              > On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              >> Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                              >> sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                              >> used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                              >>
                              >> Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                              >> product
                              >> at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                              >> building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at her
                              >> hives like this.
                              >>
                              >> Cheers,
                              >> .....G
                              >>
                              >> On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                              >>
                              >>> I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                              >>>
                              >> can
                              >>
                              >>> e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                              >>>
                              >> sitting
                              >>
                              >>> looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                              >>>
                              >> with
                              >>
                              >>> pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                              >>>
                              >> needs
                              >>
                              >>> very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                              >>> hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                              >>> stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                              >>>
                              >> have
                              >>
                              >>> some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                              >>> window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                              >>>
                              >>> Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                              >>>
                              >> even more
                              >>
                              >>> fun.
                              >>>
                              >>> Ping.
                              >>>
                              >>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                              >>>
                              >>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                              >>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                              >>> DK-8464 Galten
                              >>> Danmark
                              >>>
                              >>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                              >>>
                              >>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                              >>>
                              >>> On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                              >>>
                              >>>> Peter,
                              >>>>
                              >>>> Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                              >>>>
                              >> able to
                              >>
                              >>>> scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                              >>>>
                              >> these
                              >>
                              >>>> hives.
                              >>>>
                              >>>> There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                              >>>>
                              >> without
                              >>
                              >>>> having to build it themselves.
                              >>>>
                              >>>>
                              >>>> James
                              >>>>
                              >>>> -----Original Message-----
                              >>>> From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                              >>>>
                              >>> [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive
                              >>>
                              >> %40yahoogroups.com>] On
                              >>
                              >>> Behalf Of
                              >>>
                              >>>> P.H. Rankin Hansen
                              >>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                              >>>> To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                              >>>> Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                              >>>>
                              >> the
                              >>
                              >>> Gold
                              >>>
                              >>>> Star Top Bar Hive
                              >>>>
                              >>>> Cripes!
                              >>>>
                              >>>> $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                              >>>>
                              >>>> Ping.
                              >>>>
                              >>>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                              >>>>
                              >>>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                              >>>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                              >>>> DK-8464 Galten
                              >>>> Danmark
                              >>>>
                              >>>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                              >>>>
                              >>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                              >>>>
                              >>>>
                              >>>> On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                              >>>>
                              >>>>
                              >>>>> Good morning, All --
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                              >>>>>
                              >> please
                              >>
                              >>>>> feel free to have a look at this site:
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                              >>>>>
                              >> inventory
                              >>
                              >>>>> in stock.
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> -- Christy Hemenway
                              >>>>> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                              >>>>> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                              >>>>> 207-449-1121
                              >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                              >>>>>
                              >> as a
                              >>
                              >>>>> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                              >>>>> www.greenamericatoday.org
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>>
                              >>>>>> Hello Members,
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                              >>>>>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                              >>>>>>
                              >> this
                              >>
                              >>>>>> TBH for purchase...
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                              >>>>>>
                              >> TBHs as
                              >>
                              >>>>>> well as a hybrid
                              >>>>>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                              >>>>>>
                              >> this
                              >>
                              >>>>>> new design does...
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                              >>>>>> production in less than two weeks...
                              >>>>>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                              >>>>>>
                              >> not
                              >>
                              >>>>>> content rich.... thats coming.
                              >>>>>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> go to http://www.beepods.com<http://www.beepods.com> and
                              >>>>>>
                              >> remember...
                              >>
                              >>>>>> its only three days old...
                              >>>>>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                              >>>>>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out
                              >>>>>>
                              >> from
                              >>
                              >>>>>> Wisconsin USA
                              >>>>>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                              >>>>>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                              >>>>>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                              >>>>>>
                              >> fasteners
                              >>
                              >>>>>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                              >>>>>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                              >>>>>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                              >>>>>>
                              >> board for
                              >>
                              >>>>>> winter
                              >>>>>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                              >>>>>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                              >>>>>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                              >>>>>>
                              >> hooks
                              >>
                              >>>>>> and a handle
                              >>>>>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                              >>>>>> customer knowledgebase
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                              >>>>>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                              >>>>>> price of $270
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                              >>>>>>
                              >> end is
                              >>
                              >>>>>> in sight...
                              >>>>>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                              >>>>>> communities
                              >>>>>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> What say???
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>> charbee
                              >>>>>> colbydog@...<mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                              >>>>>> milwaukee, WI
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>>
                              >>>>>>
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                              >>>>>
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                              >>>>>
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                              >>>>
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                              >> --
                              >> Gord Campbell
                              >> Beekeeper - Partner
                              >> Seldom Fools Apiculture<http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                              >> Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                              >> CANADA
                              >> gord@...<mailto:gord@...>
                              >> Phone: +1.613.530-5662
                              >>
                              >> Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar apiaries.
                              >>
                              >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              >>
                              >>
                              >>
                              >>
                              >
                              >
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                            • Gary Piantanida
                              Christy, Well said I have been the Wacko and have accused you of being the wacko What I have learned is we all contribute what we can.   As far as pallets
                              Message 14 of 23 , Apr 19, 2010
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                                Christy,
                                Well said I have been the "Wacko" and have accused you of being the "wacko" What I have learned is we all contribute what we can.
                                 
                                As far as pallets go, you better look deeper because if I look at them I bet you I can find a brand that corresponds to some kind of impregnation, No one knows where pallets go or end up. Nothing goes international unless its treated so none can be trusted!
                                Gary J Piantanida

                                --- On Mon, 4/19/10, James Zitting <james@...> wrote:


                                From: James Zitting <james@...>
                                Subject: RE: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the Gold Star Top Bar Hive
                                To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:15 AM


                                 



                                Hey Peter, (or would you rather go by Dick)

                                Your completely missing the point. She is not building hives for the DIY
                                like yourself.
                                As far as your engineering questions go. They sound like they are more of an
                                opinion than calculations.
                                What are you doing constructive for the world? Make a hive and sell it. This
                                world needs more hive builders and promoters. You can cater to the market
                                that wants cheap hives.
                                When you throw rocks at your neighbors hive you might get stung.

                                James

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: TopHive@yahoogroups .com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of
                                P.H. Rankin Hansen
                                Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
                                To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
                                Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out the Gold
                                Star Top Bar Hive

                                I certainly wish you luck with marketing the hives. If you can get that
                                much for a hive, then more power to you - I'd certainly be laughing all
                                the way to the bank ;o)

                                But please consider using a thicker dimension for the legs. Fresh wood
                                is very resilient, but in a few years time, I fear that a fully loaded
                                hive will collapse the legs, if you accidentally give it a push from the
                                side/end. As it is, it looks as if the hive will wobble in the slightest
                                breeze. Not good for bees in a winter cluster.

                                BTW: Pallets here are NOT treated with pesticides. Not permitted.

                                Ping.

                                venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H

                                Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                DK-8464 Galten
                                Danmark

                                (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611

                                Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.

                                On 19-04-2010 16:11, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                > Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                                > being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                                > here's some more on the subject.
                                >
                                > For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                                > keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                                > For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                                > assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                                > best part.
                                >
                                > At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the different
                                > mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                                > resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                                > healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                                > think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                                > hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                                > to us.
                                >
                                > We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the "Gold
                                > Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with non-
                                > toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                                > interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                                > Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                                > interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit, your
                                > top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                                > Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                                > this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                                > mainstream and less "whacko".
                                >
                                > I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and again,
                                > we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                                > here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out to
                                > be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                                > paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if you
                                > are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                                > pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.
                                >
                                > As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                                > found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                                > well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year and
                                > disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                                > building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                                > outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                                > look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                                > that people can accept as legitimate.
                                >
                                > Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.
                                >
                                > -- Christy Hemenway
                                > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                > 207-449-1121
                                > www.goldstarhoneybe es.com
                                >
                                > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                > www.greenamericatod ay.org
                                >
                                > On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                >> Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                                >> sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                                >> used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                                >>
                                >> Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                                >> product
                                >> at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                                >> building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at her
                                >> hives like this.
                                >>
                                >> Cheers,
                                >> .....G
                                >>
                                >> On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                                >>
                                >>> I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                                >>>
                                >> can
                                >>
                                >>> e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                                >>>
                                >> sitting
                                >>
                                >>> looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                                >>>
                                >> with
                                >>
                                >>> pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                                >>>
                                >> needs
                                >>
                                >>> very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                                >>> hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                                >>> stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                                >>>
                                >> have
                                >>
                                >>> some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                                >>> window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                                >>>
                                >>> Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                                >>>
                                >> even more
                                >>
                                >>> fun.
                                >>>
                                >>> Ping.
                                >>>
                                >>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                >>>
                                >>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                >>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                >>> DK-8464 Galten
                                >>> Danmark
                                >>>
                                >>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                >>>
                                >>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                >>>
                                >>> On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                                >>>
                                >>>> Peter,
                                >>>>
                                >>>> Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                                >>>>
                                >> able to
                                >>
                                >>>> scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                                >>>>
                                >> these
                                >>
                                >>>> hives.
                                >>>>
                                >>>> There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                                >>>>
                                >> without
                                >>
                                >>>> having to build it themselves.
                                >>>>
                                >>>>
                                >>>> James
                                >>>>
                                >>>> -----Original Message-----
                                >>>> From: TopHive@yahoogroups .com<mailto:TopHive% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                >>>>
                                >>> [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups .com<mailto:TopHive
                                >>>
                                >> %40yahoogroups. com>] On
                                >>
                                >>> Behalf Of
                                >>>
                                >>>> P.H. Rankin Hansen
                                >>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                                >>>> To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com<mailto:TopHive% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                >>>> Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                                >>>>
                                >> the
                                >>
                                >>> Gold
                                >>>
                                >>>> Star Top Bar Hive
                                >>>>
                                >>>> Cripes!
                                >>>>
                                >>>> $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                                >>>>
                                >>>> Ping.
                                >>>>
                                >>>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                >>>>
                                >>>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                >>>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                >>>> DK-8464 Galten
                                >>>> Danmark
                                >>>>
                                >>>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                >>>>
                                >>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                >>>>
                                >>>>
                                >>>> On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                >>>>
                                >>>>
                                >>>>> Good morning, All --
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                                >>>>>
                                >> please
                                >>
                                >>>>> feel free to have a look at this site:
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybe es.com
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                                >>>>>
                                >> inventory
                                >>
                                >>>>> in stock.
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> -- Christy Hemenway
                                >>>>> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                >>>>> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                >>>>> 207-449-1121
                                >>>>> www.goldstarhoneybe es.com
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                                >>>>>
                                >> as a
                                >>
                                >>>>> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                >>>>> www.greenamericatod ay.org
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>>
                                >>>>>> Hello Members,
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                                >>>>>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                                >>>>>>
                                >> this
                                >>
                                >>>>>> TBH for purchase...
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                                >>>>>>
                                >> TBHs as
                                >>
                                >>>>>> well as a hybrid
                                >>>>>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                                >>>>>>
                                >> this
                                >>
                                >>>>>> new design does...
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                                >>>>>> production in less than two weeks...
                                >>>>>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                                >>>>>>
                                >> not
                                >>
                                >>>>>> content rich.... thats coming.
                                >>>>>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> go to http://www.beepods. com<http://www.beepods. com> and
                                >>>>>>
                                >> remember...
                                >>
                                >>>>>> its only three days old...
                                >>>>>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                                >>>>>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out
                                >>>>>>
                                >> from
                                >>
                                >>>>>> Wisconsin USA
                                >>>>>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench- supplied, and your
                                >>>>>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                                >>>>>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                                >>>>>>
                                >> fasteners
                                >>
                                >>>>>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                                >>>>>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                                >>>>>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                                >>>>>>
                                >> board for
                                >>
                                >>>>>> winter
                                >>>>>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                                >>>>>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                                >>>>>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                                >>>>>>
                                >> hooks
                                >>
                                >>>>>> and a handle
                                >>>>>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                                >>>>>> customer knowledgebase
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                                >>>>>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                                >>>>>> price of $270
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                                >>>>>>
                                >> end is
                                >>
                                >>>>>> in sight...
                                >>>>>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                                >>>>>> communities
                                >>>>>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> What say???
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>> charbee
                                >>>>>> colbydog@gmail. com<mailto:colbydog% 40gmail.com>
                                >>>>>> milwaukee, WI
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>>
                                >>>>>>
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                                >>>>>
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                                >> --
                                >> Gord Campbell
                                >> Beekeeper - Partner
                                >> Seldom Fools Apiculture<http://sfapiculture .ca> 887 Plainview Place
                                >> Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                                >> CANADA
                                >> gord@sfapiculture. ca<mailto:gord@sfapiculture. ca>
                                >> Phone: +1.613.530-5662
                                >>
                                >> Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar apiaries.
                                >>
                                >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                >>
                                >>
                                >>
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                              • Christy Hemenway
                                Hi Roger -- We looked at packaging the product with bees this spring. The reality of it is that bees are living things, and having them on hand to start a
                                Message 15 of 23 , Apr 20, 2010
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                                  Hi Roger --

                                  We looked at packaging the product with bees this spring. The reality
                                  of it is that bees are living things, and having them on hand to start
                                  a hive is seasonally driven. In essence that is what we have done,
                                  but there's little difference between advertising - Hive kit complete
                                  with Bees! and the reality of - Hive kit + Bees = $xxx

                                  Since we are not yet "bee breeders to the world", we are distributing
                                  packages locally. That means "for pickup only".

                                  -- Christy Hemenway
                                  GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                  "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                  207-449-1121
                                  www.goldstarhoneybees.com

                                  Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                  Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                  www.greenamericatoday.org

                                  On Apr 19, 2010, at 10:25 AM, owlsplace wrote:

                                  > Yes, the legs do look a bit on the weak side. I think the market
                                  > will become more competitive as garden beekeeping becomes more
                                  > popular.
                                  > If I was going for the big bucks I would be looking for complete
                                  > kits with bees... :)
                                  > I think there is a market here for city people who don't have the
                                  > time or ability to make their own hives.
                                  > Wish you well in your enterprise, Christy.
                                  > Roger at Steamboat Springs, NV
                                  >
                                  > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "P.H. Rankin Hansen" <ping@...> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > And while we are at it: The legs look rather wobbly to me
                                  > > > Ping.
                                  > > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                  > > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                  > > Stj�rvej 15, Storring
                                  > > DK-8464 Galten
                                  > > Danmark
                                  > ...
                                  > > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                  > > > Good morning, All --
                                  > > >> > Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                                  > > >> > While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                                  > please> > feel free to have a look at this site:
                                  > > >> > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                  > > >> > It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                                  > > >> > We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                                  > inventory> > in stock.
                                  > > >> > -- Christy Hemenway
                                  > > > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                  > > > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                  > > > 207-449-1121
                                  > > > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                  > > > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                  > > > www.greenamericatoday.org
                                  > > >
                                  > > > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >> Hello Members,
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                                  > > >> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                                  > this
                                  > > >> TBH for purchase...
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs
                                  > as
                                  > > >> well as a hybrid
                                  > > >> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                                  > this
                                  > > >> new design does...
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                                  > > >> production in less than two weeks...
                                  > > >> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                                  > not
                                  > > >> content rich.... thats coming.
                                  > > >> We'd like your feedback at least...
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
                                  > > >> its only three days old...
                                  > > >> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> � machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                                  > > >> � 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                                  > > >> Wisconsin USA
                                  > > >> � assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                                  > > >> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                                  > > >> � super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                                  > fasteners
                                  > > >> � comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                                  > > >> � sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                                  > > >> � screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                                  > board for
                                  > > >> winter
                                  > > >> � two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                                  > > >> � 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                                  > > >> � lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                                  > hooks
                                  > > >> and a handle
                                  > > >> � and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                                  > > >> customer knowledgebase
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                                  > > >> we could certainly use your help and input.
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                                  > > >> price of $270
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end
                                  > is
                                  > > >> in sight...
                                  > > >> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                                  > > >> communities
                                  > > >> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> What say???
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >> charbee
                                  > > >> colbydog@...
                                  > > >> milwaukee, WI
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >>
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > ------------------------------------
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                  > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >



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                                • Christy Hemenway
                                  Hi Tom -- Thanks for the kind words. Gold Star Top Bar Hive roofs are made of lumber, yes - painted with non-toxic Mythic Brand paint. They weigh roughly 16
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                                    Hi Tom --

                                    Thanks for the kind words.

                                    Gold Star Top Bar Hive roofs are made of lumber, yes - painted with
                                    non-toxic Mythic Brand paint. They weigh roughly 16 pounds - the
                                    heaviest piece you will ever have to lift after you've situated the
                                    hive and populated it with bees. I could hold it up all day, compared
                                    to a 90 pound Lang deep. The observation windows are made of glass,
                                    and installed with another non-toxic product - an adhesive caulk made
                                    by Safecoat. The goal with these two "non-toxic" products was to get
                                    away from anything that off-gassed chemicals into the hive. Many
                                    people aren't aware that even the latex paint that is used to paint a
                                    child's bedroom off-gasses poisonous chemicals into the room - for
                                    five years and more!

                                    One thing that do-it-yourself hive builders do not consider (and they
                                    don't need to - they're not "in business" as we are) is that their
                                    labor is a labor of love. If they factored in an hourly rate for
                                    their actual time spent, especially including the time spent
                                    researching, and remaking things that didn't work the way they were
                                    first envisioned - the Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit would be seen as a
                                    great deal at twice the price!

                                    People often do compare the cost of a Gold Star Hive to the
                                    "equivalent" in Langstroth equipment. But I'd like to point out that
                                    in the realm of bee health - they are not equivalent at all - that's
                                    like saying apples are oranges. It's not the same product at all.
                                    Nor do most people consider an "extractor" to be a startup cost - and
                                    yet their goal is often honey. Extractors start at roughly $250. A
                                    Gold Star Honey Harvest kit is $50. Gotta remember - it's not about
                                    the honey, Honey! It's about the bees.


                                    -- Christy Hemenway
                                    GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                    "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                    207-449-1121
                                    www.goldstarhoneybees.com

                                    Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                    Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                    www.greenamericatoday.org

                                    On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:39 AM, tomzboxathotmaildotcom wrote:

                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, Christy Hemenway <christy@...> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Wow - I should have ducked!
                                    >
                                    > No ducking! You have a great product and the correct, green,
                                    > sustainable philosophy to go with it! For folks who can't build
                                    > their own, yours is a top o' the line choice!
                                    >
                                    > I DO build my own, based upon Phil Chandler's design plus ruthlessly
                                    > stolen ides from you (polycab windows), hirschbach (entrances and
                                    > landing boards), Murrell (dimensions), and others. Mine cost me
                                    > roughly $50 ea. A fully equipped store-bought Lang will end up
                                    > costing $450 unless one is very very frugal. Nick Hamilton's Warre's
                                    > run around $300 I think. So your Gold Star Hive is competitive;
                                    > particularly with the features you include.
                                    >
                                    > I like your new gabled roofs, since they are similar to my own. <g>
                                    > My first ones were too heavy, even using thin paneling for the
                                    > rooftops; so I switched to corrugated plastic panels over a simple
                                    > wood frame and gables. The notes elsewhere on this thread seem to
                                    > indicate you have plastic roofs on the Gold Star Hive, but the pics
                                    > look like lumber. What are you using and what are your experiences
                                    > with the new roofs?
                                    >
                                    > best,
                                    > Tom Warren
                                    > Pleasant Hill, OR
                                    > http://awholenotherbeeblog.blogspot.com/
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >



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                                  • Christy Hemenway
                                    Hello Peter -- We didn t have an engineer perform any structural analysis, but the perception that they were insubstantial was enough to cause us to revisit
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                                      Hello Peter --

                                      We didn't have an engineer perform any structural analysis, but the
                                      perception that they were insubstantial was enough to cause us to
                                      revisit that aspect of the kit. Probably they will hold up just fine
                                      - we are certainly watching for longevity of all our hive components,
                                      but customer perception was the actual trigger.

                                      Wanting to have "live" pictures of it in action - with bees hasn't
                                      happened yet, as the production runs with the new leg design were only
                                      available beginning in December.

                                      This from an earlier email:
                                      > And for folks who saw the Gold Star model that was launched April 1,
                                      > 2009, you might be interested to know that two nice design changes
                                      > have occurred since. One is that the legs are more substantial now,
                                      > and rest inside the end panels instead of on the outside (which
                                      really
                                      > looks great) and the other is that the roof ridge has been improved
                                      to
                                      > create a very nice seal in the gable roof.

                                      -- Christy Hemenway
                                      GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                      "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                      207-449-1121
                                      www.goldstarhoneybees.com

                                      Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                      Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                      www.greenamericatoday.org

                                      On Apr 19, 2010, at 12:02 PM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:

                                      > I certainly wish you luck with marketing the hives. If you can get
                                      > that
                                      > much for a hive, then more power to you - I'd certainly be laughing
                                      > all
                                      > the way to the bank ;o)
                                      >
                                      > But please consider using a thicker dimension for the legs. Fresh wood
                                      > is very resilient, but in a few years time, I fear that a fully loaded
                                      > hive will collapse the legs, if you accidentally give it a push from
                                      > the
                                      > side/end. As it is, it looks as if the hive will wobble in the
                                      > slightest
                                      > breeze. Not good for bees in a winter cluster.
                                      >
                                      > BTW: Pallets here are NOT treated with pesticides. Not permitted.
                                      >
                                      > Ping.
                                      >
                                      > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                      >
                                      > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                      > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                      > DK-8464 Galten
                                      > Danmark
                                      >
                                      > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                      >
                                      > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > On 19-04-2010 16:11, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                      >> Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                                      >> being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                                      >> here's some more on the subject.
                                      >>
                                      >> For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                                      >> keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                                      >> For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                                      >> assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                                      >> best part.
                                      >>
                                      >> At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the
                                      >> different
                                      >> mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                                      >> resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                                      >> healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                                      >> think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                                      >> hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                                      >> to us.
                                      >>
                                      >> We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the
                                      >> "Gold
                                      >> Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with
                                      >> non-
                                      >> toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                                      >> interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                                      >> Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                                      >> interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit,
                                      >> your
                                      >> top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                                      >> Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                                      >> this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                                      >> mainstream and less "whacko".
                                      >>
                                      >> I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and
                                      >> again,
                                      >> we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                                      >> here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out
                                      >> to
                                      >> be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                                      >> paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if
                                      >> you
                                      >> are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                                      >> pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.
                                      >>
                                      >> As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                                      >> found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                                      >> well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year
                                      >> and
                                      >> disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                                      >> building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                                      >> outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                                      >> look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                                      >> that people can accept as legitimate.
                                      >>
                                      >> Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.
                                      >>
                                      >> -- Christy Hemenway
                                      >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                      >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                      >> 207-449-1121
                                      >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                      >>
                                      >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                      >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                      >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                                      >>
                                      >> On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >>> Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                                      >>> sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                                      >>> used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                                      >>> product
                                      >>> at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                                      >>> building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at
                                      >>> her
                                      >>> hives like this.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Cheers,
                                      >>> .....G
                                      >>>
                                      >>> On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> can
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> sitting
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> with
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> needs
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only
                                      >>>> cover
                                      >>>> hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                                      >>>> stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> have
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                                      >>>> window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> even more
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> fun.
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> Ping.
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                      >>>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                      >>>> DK-8464 Galten
                                      >>>> Danmark
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>> On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>> Peter,
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>> able to
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>> scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>> these
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>> hives.
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>> without
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>> having to build it themselves.
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> James
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> -----Original Message-----
                                      >>>>> From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>> [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> %40yahoogroups.com>] On
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> Behalf Of
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>> P.H. Rankin Hansen
                                      >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                                      >>>>> To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com<mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      >>>>> Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>> the
                                      >>>
                                      >>>> Gold
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>> Star Top Bar Hive
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> Cripes!
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> Ping.
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                      >>>>> Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                      >>>>> DK-8464 Galten
                                      >>>>> Danmark
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>> Good morning, All --
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>> please
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>> feel free to have a look at this site:
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>> inventory
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>> in stock.
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> -- Christy Hemenway
                                      >>>>>> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                      >>>>>> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                      >>>>>> 207-449-1121
                                      >>>>>> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>> as a
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                      >>>>>> www.greenamericatoday.org
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> Hello Members,
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                                      >>>>>>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> this
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> TBH for purchase...
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> TBHs as
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> well as a hybrid
                                      >>>>>>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> this
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> new design does...
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                                      >>>>>>> production in less than two weeks...
                                      >>>>>>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> not
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> content rich.... thats coming.
                                      >>>>>>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> go to http://www.beepods.com<http://www.beepods.com> and
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> remember...
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> its only three days old...
                                      >>>>>>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> from
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> Wisconsin USA
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                                      >>>>>>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> fasteners
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> board for
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> winter
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> hooks
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> and a handle
                                      >>>>>>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                                      >>>>>>> customer knowledgebase
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                                      >>>>>>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                                      >>>>>>> price of $270
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>> end is
                                      >>>
                                      >>>>>>> in sight...
                                      >>>>>>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                                      >>>>>>> communities
                                      >>>>>>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> What say???
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>> charbee
                                      >>>>>>> colbydog@...<mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                                      >>>>>>> milwaukee, WI
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>>
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                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
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                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      >>>>> ------------------------------------
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                      >>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> ------------------------------------
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                      >>>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>>>
                                      >>> --
                                      >>> Gord Campbell
                                      >>> Beekeeper - Partner
                                      >>> Seldom Fools Apiculture<http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                                      >>> Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                                      >>> CANADA
                                      >>> gord@...<mailto:gord@...>
                                      >>> Phone: +1.613.530-5662
                                      >>>
                                      >>> Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar
                                      >>> apiaries.
                                      >>>
                                      >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>>
                                      >>
                                      >>
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                                    • Christy Hemenway
                                      People do throw out perfectly usable stuff all the time. But I can t build a consistent product if I am scrounging round looking for discarded wood to build
                                      Message 18 of 23 , Apr 20, 2010
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                                        People do throw out perfectly usable stuff all the time. But I can't
                                        build a consistent product if I am scrounging 'round looking for
                                        discarded wood to build it from. Plays havoc with one's production
                                        schedule! We used recycled glass for a time too - but when it came
                                        time to obtain 100 pieces of it at a time, all of them clean and clear
                                        and undamaged, and all measuring 4" x 36", well... we had to break
                                        down and buy some.

                                        -- Christy Hemenway
                                        GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                        "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                        207-449-1121
                                        www.goldstarhoneybees.com

                                        Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                        Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                        www.greenamericatoday.org

                                        On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:

                                        > I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I can
                                        > e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                                        > sitting
                                        > looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                                        > with
                                        > pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                                        > needs
                                        > very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only cover
                                        > hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                                        > stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we have
                                        > some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                                        > window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                                        >
                                        > Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is even
                                        > more
                                        > fun.
                                        >
                                        > Ping.
                                        >
                                        > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                        >
                                        > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                        > Stj�rvej 15, Storring
                                        > DK-8464 Galten
                                        > Danmark
                                        >
                                        > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                        >
                                        > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                        >
                                        > On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                                        > > Peter,
                                        > >
                                        > > Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                                        > able to
                                        > > scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                                        > these
                                        > > hives.
                                        > >
                                        > > There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                                        > without
                                        > > having to build it themselves.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > James
                                        > >
                                        > > -----Original Message-----
                                        > > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com] On
                                        > Behalf Of
                                        > > P.H. Rankin Hansen
                                        > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                                        > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                                        > the Gold
                                        > > Star Top Bar Hive
                                        > >
                                        > > Cripes!
                                        > >
                                        > > $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                                        > >
                                        > > Ping.
                                        > >
                                        > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                        > >
                                        > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                        > > Stj�rvej 15, Storring
                                        > > DK-8464 Galten
                                        > > Danmark
                                        > >
                                        > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                        > >
                                        > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > >> Good morning, All --
                                        > >>
                                        > >> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                                        > >>
                                        > >> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially, please
                                        > >> feel free to have a look at this site:
                                        > >>
                                        > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                        > >>
                                        > >> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                                        > >>
                                        > >> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                                        > inventory
                                        > >> in stock.
                                        > >>
                                        > >> -- Christy Hemenway
                                        > >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                        > >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                        > >> 207-449-1121
                                        > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                        > >>
                                        > >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                        > >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                        > >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                                        > >>
                                        > >> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>> Hello Members,
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping Ordinance
                                        > >>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                                        > this
                                        > >>> TBH for purchase...
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and TBHs as
                                        > >>> well as a hybrid
                                        > >>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                                        > this
                                        > >>> new design does...
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                                        > >>> production in less than two weeks...
                                        > >>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its not
                                        > >>> content rich.... thats coming.
                                        > >>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> go to http://www.beepods.com and remember...
                                        > >>> its only three days old...
                                        > >>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> � machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                                        > >>> � 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed out from
                                        > >>> Wisconsin USA
                                        > >>> � assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and your
                                        > >>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                                        > >>> � super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and fasteners
                                        > >>> � comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                                        > >>> � sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                                        > >>> � screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom board
                                        > for
                                        > >>> winter
                                        > >>> � two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                                        > >>> � 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                                        > >>> � lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins secure
                                        > hooks
                                        > >>> and a handle
                                        > >>> � and the website is being designed to provide instruction and a
                                        > >>> customer knowledgebase
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the masses...
                                        > >>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an introductory
                                        > >>> price of $270
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no end is
                                        > >>> in sight...
                                        > >>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                                        > >>> communities
                                        > >>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> What say???
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>> charbee
                                        > >>> colbydog@...
                                        > >>> milwaukee, WI
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>>
                                        > >>
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                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
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                                        > >>
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                                        > >>
                                        > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                        > >
                                        > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
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                                        > >
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                                        > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                        > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                        > >
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                                        > >
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                                      • ColbyDog
                                        I agree with Christy! While it is true that one can spend their time salvaging rubbish piles in search of spare sticks and boards, pound used nails straight
                                        Message 19 of 23 , Apr 21, 2010
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                                          I agree with Christy! While it is true that one can spend their time
                                          salvaging rubbish piles in search of spare sticks and boards, pound used
                                          nails straight and even salvage hinges and hooks from old doors... this
                                          is not how most people operate.. and not the way anyone making a
                                          business can affordably sustain.
                                          Peter, I applaud your sustainable effort and rejoice in your $10 hive...
                                          trust me, I follow the 4 R's principle every day... (reduce, recycle,
                                          reuse, repurpose) but what Christy and we at Beepods.com
                                          <http://www.beepods.com> are doing is providing a quality product that
                                          helps end-users quickly get to the purpose of what they intended...
                                          Keeping Bees! Many people have neither the time nor the talent to see
                                          treasure from trash... and thats too bad... but thats not the lesson
                                          we're trying to teach here.
                                          GoldStar and Beepods
                                          <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113653065325333> want to help
                                          people experience bees... and beekeeping! Speaking for myself, in so
                                          doing, they may experience, as I did, a wondrous lesson from interacting
                                          with the hive, that begins to teach them of efficiencies, community,
                                          cooperation and dedication.
                                          Peter, keep making those salvage hives... meantime don't try to attack
                                          people who are earnestly trying to help the bees, and our species, by
                                          making a living manufacturing a marketable, reliable, dependable and
                                          elegant vehicle to address the growing demand that people have to help
                                          the bees.
                                          Christy's GoldStar Hives and terrific website... and our
                                          <http://www.beepods.com> Beepods.com
                                          <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113653065325333> hives will
                                          continue to provide the vehicle by which many people with lesser
                                          scavenging and building skills will bee able to experience beekeeping
                                          and the wonderful lessons that interacting with these lovely
                                          lesson-planners will teach.
                                          We'll continue sourcing clear lumber and quality hardware, using
                                          automated processes where ever able to help reduce the scrap and waste
                                          from production and give a quality product that will last for seasons to
                                          come. Our prices reflect the quality of materials, workmanship and the
                                          time spent in R&D, production, and advocacy...
                                          What's that Christy says, "Honey, its about the bees."

                                          charbeeBeepods.com <http://www.beepods.com> Bee our Facebook Friend
                                          <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113653065325333> -fostering
                                          community not competition.


                                          --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, Christy Hemenway <christy@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Wow - I should have ducked! I am becoming somewhat accustomed to
                                          > being targeted in this fashion - so thanks for the support, Gord, and
                                          > here's some more on the subject.
                                          >
                                          > For some people, building the hive themselves is the best part of
                                          > keeping bees in a top bar hive.
                                          > For some people, having a hive that is readily available, easy to
                                          > assemble, made of quality, non-toxic materials, and attractive is the
                                          > best part.
                                          >
                                          > At Gold Star Honeybees, we've got no quarrel with any of the different
                                          > mindsets of different beekeepers. Beekeepers are some of the most
                                          > resourceful people we know! Our focus at Gold Star Honeybees is on
                                          > healthy honey bees, and however you get there is fine with us. We
                                          > think that natural wax is hugely important and that's why top bar
                                          > hives, or similar methods of foundationless beekeeping matter so much
                                          > to us.
                                          >
                                          > We have, however, worked hard to create what we like to call the "Gold
                                          > Star Standard" - an ergonomically friendly top bar hive, made with
                                          non-
                                          > toxic, quality materials, based on sound logic, and with identical,
                                          > interchangeable parts. You may have realized by now that one reason
                                          > Langstroth equipment is so ubiquitous is that all the parts are
                                          > interchangeable. When you purchase a Gold Star Top Bar Hive kit, your
                                          > top bars will fit in *your* Gold Star hive, in your *neighbor's* Gold
                                          > Star hive, and in a Gold Star hive halfway round the planet. It's
                                          > this simple fact that will help top bar beekeeping to become more
                                          > mainstream and less "whacko".
                                          >
                                          > I know that some of us like to be known as the local whacko and again,
                                          > we gave no quarrel with that either - we have been the local whackos
                                          > here in Maine since 2007! Top bar beekeeping is likely to turn out to
                                          > be one of the things that helps to shifts the industrial agricultural
                                          > paradigm that has got us into this current crisis mode - and so if you
                                          > are out here in this whacko, alternative beekeeping world - you are a
                                          > pioneer of an extraordinary sort, and I applaud you.
                                          >
                                          > As a business person, I will also say that there is some value to be
                                          > found in pricing your product so that your business is sustainable as
                                          > well. What good will I have done if I make top bar hives one year and
                                          > disappear just as the concept begins to take hold? People who are
                                          > building top bar hives in their garages are doing good work. We
                                          > outgrew that stage awhile ago and we know what the numbers need to
                                          > look like to keep going, and to keep spreading the word in a fashion
                                          > that people can accept as legitimate.
                                          >
                                          > Build it or buy it, we don't care. Just be good to your bees.
                                          >
                                          > -- Christy Hemenway
                                          > GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                          > "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                          > 207-449-1121
                                          > www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                          >
                                          > Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized as a
                                          > Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                          > www.greenamericatoday.org
                                          >
                                          > On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Gord Campbell wrote:
                                          >
                                          > > Peter, pallet wood in North America is either steam disinfected or
                                          > > sprayed with insecticides. They're not marked as to which method was
                                          > > used, so it's safer all around to avoid it entirely.
                                          > >
                                          > > Christy makes a wonderful product and obviously isn't aiming her
                                          > > product
                                          > > at do-it-yourselfers. As James said, not everybody is interested in
                                          > > building their own and it's really unfair of you to take a run at
                                          her
                                          > > hives like this.
                                          > >
                                          > > Cheers,
                                          > > .....G
                                          > >
                                          > > On 04/19/2010 09:11 AM, P.H. Rankin Hansen wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I beg to differ. People throw out perfectly good wood every day. I
                                          > > can
                                          > > > e.g. use the wood from EU-pallets, which I can get for free. I'm
                                          > > sitting
                                          > > > looking across the road, where my neighbor has his trailer stacked
                                          > > with
                                          > > > pallets he got for free, and usually will cut up for fire wood. It
                                          > > needs
                                          > > > very little work to be converted into TBH's. The $10 need only
                                          cover
                                          > > > hardware, like screws and bolts, plus the netting. $15, if I want
                                          > > > stainless netting. Add $33, if I want new wood. And mind you, we
                                          > > have
                                          > > > some of the steepest prices in Europe. If I wanted an observation
                                          > > > window, I could get the glass free from the local recycling yard.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Building it yourself, is half the fun. Doing it at low cost is
                                          > > even more
                                          > > > fun.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Ping.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                          > > > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                          > > > DK-8464 Galten
                                          > > > Danmark
                                          > > >
                                          > > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > On 19-04-2010 14:26, James Zitting wrote:
                                          > > > > Peter,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Come on now. You know you can't build that for $10! You may be
                                          > > able to
                                          > > > > scrounge together some scrap wood, but it will look nothing like
                                          > > these
                                          > > > > hives.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > There are people out there who want a professionally built hive
                                          > > without
                                          > > > > having to build it themselves.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > James
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > -----Original Message-----
                                          > > > > From: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > > > [mailto:TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive
                                          > > %40yahoogroups.com>] On
                                          > > > Behalf Of
                                          > > > > P.H. Rankin Hansen
                                          > > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:07 AM
                                          > > > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TopHive%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > > > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Not just another TBH for sale - check out
                                          > > the
                                          > > > Gold
                                          > > > > Star Top Bar Hive
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Cripes!
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > $425 for a hive I can build myself for less than $10!
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Ping.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > venlig hilsen / best regards / vy 73 de OZ4PH& 5P1H
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Peter H. Rankin Hansen
                                          > > > > Stjærvej 15, Storring
                                          > > > > DK-8464 Galten
                                          > > > > Danmark
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > (+45) 7586 1688 / (+45) 2211 9611
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > On 19-04-2010 13:55, Christy Hemenway wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >> Good morning, All --
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> Best to you and to your bees as beekeeping gears up for 2010!
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> While we're comparing Top Bar Hives available commercially,
                                          > > please
                                          > > > >> feel free to have a look at this site:
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> It's not new - we've been doing Top Bar Hives since 2007.
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> We appreciate your feedback, we LOVE pictures, and we have
                                          > > inventory
                                          > > > >> in stock.
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> -- Christy Hemenway
                                          > > > >> GOLD STAR HONEYBEES
                                          > > > >> "It's not about the honey, Honey - it's about the bees!"
                                          > > > >> 207-449-1121
                                          > > > >> www.goldstarhoneybees.com
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> Gold Star Honeybees is based in Bath, Maine and is recognized
                                          > > as a
                                          > > > >> Green Business by the Green Business Network
                                          > > > >> www.greenamericatoday.org
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 PM, ColbyDog wrote:
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>> Hello Members,
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> Now that Milwaukee just passed the Backyard Beekeeping
                                          Ordinance
                                          > > > >>> allowing honeybees in the city... a friend and I just produced
                                          > > this
                                          > > > >>> TBH for purchase...
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> I've been beeking for 8 years and have both langstroth and
                                          > > TBHs as
                                          > > > >>> well as a hybrid
                                          > > > >>> developed two seasons ago that will be shelved til we see what
                                          > > this
                                          > > > >>> new design does...
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> now forgive me... we got this hive designed, built and into
                                          > > > >>> production in less than two weeks...
                                          > > > >>> as was the website... so please don't rip me a new one cuz its
                                          > > not
                                          > > > >>> content rich.... thats coming.
                                          > > > >>> We'd like your feedback at least...
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> go to http://www.beepods.com <http://www.beepods.com> and
                                          > > remember...
                                          > > > >>> its only three days old...
                                          > > > >>> not even at the larva stage ;-)
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> ¥ machined locally from Wisconsin White Pine
                                          > > > >>> ¥ 100% designed, tooled, machined, warehoused and mailed
                                          out
                                          > > from
                                          > > > >>> Wisconsin USA
                                          > > > >>> ¥ assembles in minutes with an AllenWrench-supplied, and
                                          your
                                          > > > >>> favorite phillips screwdriver.
                                          > > > >>> ¥ super strong- all parts assembled by machine bolts and
                                          > > fasteners
                                          > > > >>> ¥ comes with two fullsize polycarb windows and wood covers
                                          > > > >>> ¥ sliding entrances on all four sides (close three)
                                          > > > >>> ¥ screen-bottom floor with fly-paper mite shelf and bottom
                                          > > board for
                                          > > > >>> winter
                                          > > > >>> ¥ two starter wall frames and 31 wax-tipped bars
                                          > > > >>> ¥ 10 more bars for late season saving of food comb
                                          > > > >>> ¥ lightweight plastic top with machined centering pins
                                          secure
                                          > > hooks
                                          > > > >>> and a handle
                                          > > > >>> ¥ and the website is being designed to provide instruction
                                          and a
                                          > > > >>> customer knowledgebase
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> we hope to make backyard beeking safe and fun for the
                                          masses...
                                          > > > >>> we could certainly use your help and input.
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> I'll upload a couple pictures... we're offering an
                                          introductory
                                          > > > >>> price of $330
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> as long as the commercial pollinators are collapsing and no
                                          > > end is
                                          > > > >>> in sight...
                                          > > > >>> we feel compelled to help decentralize bee colonies and turn
                                          > > > >>> communities
                                          > > > >>> back to the simpler ways of backyard bees like 150 years ago.
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> What say???
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> Thanks in advance for your time and input....
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>> charbee
                                          > > > >>> colbydog@... <mailto:colbydog%40gmail.com>
                                          > > > >>> milwaukee, WI
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> ------------------------------------
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >> The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                          > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >>
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ------------------------------------
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                          > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                          > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                          > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ------------------------------------
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > The group archive and other pages can be accessed at
                                          > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive
                                          > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TopHive>
                                          > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > > --
                                          > > Gord Campbell
                                          > > Beekeeper - Partner
                                          > > Seldom Fools Apiculture <http://sfapiculture.ca> 887 Plainview Place
                                          > > Kingston, ON K7P 2K3
                                          > > CANADA
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                                          > > Phone: +1.613.530-5662
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                                          > > Ontario's /first and only/ treatment-free commercial top-bar
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