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  • roger
    My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars
    Message 1 of 20 , Jun 22, 2009
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      My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
    • m_hoffman@fastmail.fm
      Hi Roland, I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon. mike hoffman Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
      Message 2 of 20 , Jul 2, 2009
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        Hi Roland,
        I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon.
        mike hoffman


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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>

        Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
        To: <TopHive@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board


        I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.� I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.� I have kinda the same problem.� I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.� I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere.� Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip.��My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week.� I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from�the crooked comb.� One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar.� Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.��Last week, I�had a really crooked bar that�was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey.� Heat is
        an important�factor when working your
        hives here in South Central Texas.�
        � I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.� But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.� Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.


        "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.�
        �� But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."

        Roland Denner
        281.799.6505

        --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:


        From: roger <toad08551@...>
        Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
        To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM








        bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
        --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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        > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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      • roger
        bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
        Message 3 of 20 , Jul 2, 2009
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          bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
          --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "roger" <toad08551@...> wrote:
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          > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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        • Roland Denner
          I ve been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I m a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.  I have
          Message 4 of 20 , Jul 2, 2009
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            I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.  I have kinda the same problem.  I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.  I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere.  Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip.  My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week.  I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the crooked comb.  One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar.  Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.  Last week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey.  Heat is
            an important factor when working your
            hives here in South Central Texas. 
              I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.


            "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
               But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
             
            Roland Denner
            281.799.6505

            --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:


            From: roger <toad08551@...>
            Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
            To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM








            bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
            --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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            > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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          • howard pirtle
            The follower board is for several reasons...it makes correct bee space between last comb being built and back hive...so you dont end up with cross bar built
            Message 5 of 20 , Jul 2, 2009
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              The follower board is for several reasons...it makes correct bee space between last comb being built and back hive...so you dont end up with cross bar built comb or worse...it also makes a space that is easier to maintain the temperature in ...instead of a wide open drafty space....in the wild they dont have follower boards when making new hives but...they build odd shaped combs and lots of brace comb...not condusive to our way of keeping bees...if one incorporates a bee escape on the follower board they can pull the first bar of honey comb and replace it with the bee escape follower board come back later and harvest the remaining bars of honey without disturbing the brood area...HHH

              --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...> wrote:


              From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
              Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
              To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 3:53 PM








              I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.  I have kinda the same problem.  I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.  I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere.  Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip.  My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week.  I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the crooked comb.  One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar.  Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.  Last week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey.  Heat is
              an important factor when working your
              hives here in South Central Texas. 
                I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.

              "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                 But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
               
              Roland Denner
              281.799.6505

              --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@yahoo. com> wrote:

              From: roger <toad08551@yahoo. com>
              Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
              To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
              Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM

              bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
              --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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              > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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            • roger
              I have a package hive that built all kinds of crooked comb. also cross comb-they start 2 small comb on a bar and then they build across other way between LOL.
              Message 6 of 20 , Jul 3, 2009
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                I have a package hive that built all kinds of crooked comb. also cross comb-they start 2 small comb on a bar and then they build across other way between LOL. Tried staightening coupe times. If i made 3/4 size following boards would that encourage then to build straight???- after they get comb built across bar then remove following board or put in another bar???
                Swarm hive made perfect comb from beginning roger
                --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, howard pirtle <zeeduk69@...> wrote:
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                > The follower board is for several reasons...it makes correct bee space between last comb being built and back hive...so you dont end up with cross bar built comb or worse...it also makes a space that is easier to maintain the temperature in ...instead of a wide open drafty space....in the wild they dont have follower boards when making new hives but...they build odd shaped combs and lots of brace comb...not condusive to our way of keeping bees...if one incorporates a bee escape on the follower board they can pull the first bar of honey comb and replace it with the bee escape follower board come back later and harvest the remaining bars of honey without disturbing the brood area...HHH
              • bill lorch
                Screened bottoms = how cold does it get over winter? If you have a ,like me,a long cold winter don t try it. i can see this for southern states but not where
                Message 7 of 20 , Jul 3, 2009
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                  Screened bottoms = how cold does it get over winter? If you have a ,like me,a long cold winter don't try it. i can see this for southern states but not where it gets cold for any period of time.!

                  > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                  > From: m_hoffman@...
                  > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:47:36 +0000
                  > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                  > Hi Roland,
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                  > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon.
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                  > mike hoffman
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                  > -----Original Message-----
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                  > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
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                  > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
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                  > Roland Denner
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                • mike hoffman
                  Hi Bill, The 2 boxes that I have don t have screened bottoms, but there is a debate among other beeks with the screened bottoms. I was just wondering if there
                  Message 8 of 20 , Jul 3, 2009
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                    Hi Bill,
                    The 2 boxes that I have don't have screened bottoms, but there is a
                    debate among other beeks with the screened bottoms. I was just wondering
                    if there are many advantages to the screened bottoms, even in a warm
                    climate?
                    Thanks!
                    mike h


                    On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:53:47 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>
                    said:
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                    > Screened bottoms = how cold does it get over winter? If you have a ,like
                    > me,a long cold winter don't try it. i can see this for southern states
                    > but not where it gets cold for any period of time.!
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                    > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                    > > From: m_hoffman@...
                    > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:47:36 +0000
                    > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                    > > Hi Roland,
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                    > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
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                    > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
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                  • bill lorch
                    Screened bottoms have the ease of or NO cleaning so 2 speak ,2) scened bottom with a board below it one can make a grid paper an geese it( use a from of non
                    Message 9 of 20 , Jul 3, 2009
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                      Screened bottoms have the ease of or NO cleaning so 2 speak ,2) scened bottom with a board below it one can make a grid paper an geese it( use a from of non toxic like Vaseline etc) an count the mite drop.3) better ventlation in HOT clims.. I just wait till mid summer and let them have it with a super bunch of powered sugar (confectioners). For me im ( west of chicago ), i find these methoids have worked well for me. Than i have had Langs for many years in IA an here.here i have 2 ea warre, long,lang.good lick 2 you


                      To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                      From: m_hoffman@...
                      Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:47:05 -0700
                      Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board


























                      Hi Bill,

                      The 2 boxes that I have don't have screened bottoms, but there is a

                      debate among other beeks with the screened bottoms. I was just wondering

                      if there are many advantages to the screened bottoms, even in a warm

                      climate?

                      Thanks!

                      mike h



                      On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:53:47 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>

                      said:

                      >

                      > Screened bottoms = how cold does it get over winter? If you have a ,like

                      > me,a long cold winter don't try it. i can see this for southern states

                      > but not where it gets cold for any period of time.!

                      >

                      > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com

                      > > From: m_hoffman@...

                      > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:47:36 +0000

                      > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board

                      > >

                      > > Hi Roland,

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                      > > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon.

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                      > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>

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                      > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57

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                      > > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger. I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere. Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip. My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week. I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the crooked comb. One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar. Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood. Last week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey. Heat is

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                      > > an important factor when working your

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                      You can screen the bottoms but you will have to have a 2 way bottom where you can flip it so its closed in winter or just have a cover like the ones used on
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                        You can screen the bottoms but you will have to have a 2 way bottom where you can flip it so its closed in winter or just have a cover like the ones used on the windows...I dont put screen under the brood area..if it gets hot where you have the hives then its a good way to keep the comb from sagging...HHH

                        --- On Fri, 7/3/09, bill lorch <jetphixer@...> wrote:


                        From: bill lorch <jetphixer@...>
                        Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                        To: tophive@yahoogroups.com
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                        Screened bottoms = how cold does it get over winter? If you have a ,like me,a long cold winter don't try it. i can see this for southern states but not where it gets cold for any period of time.!

                        > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
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                        > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                        > Hi Roland,
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                        > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon.
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                        >   I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
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                      • Roland Denner
                        Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn t want to allow the access for the fire ants.  It s sealed up pretty good all around, but I left
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                          Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to allow the access for the fire ants.  It's sealed up pretty good all around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation.  It was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the other.


                          "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                             But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                           
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                          281.799.6505

                          --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:


                          From: m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...>
                          Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                          To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:47 AM


                          Hi Roland,
                          I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives? I am in the NW part of Oregon.
                          mike hoffman


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                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>

                          Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
                          To: <TopHive@yahoogroups.com>
                          Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board


                          I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.  I have kinda the same problem.  I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.  I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere.  Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip.  My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week.  I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the crooked comb.  One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar.  Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.  Last week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey.  Heat is
                          an important factor when working your
                          hives here in South Central Texas. 
                            I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.


                          "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                             But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                           
                          Roland Denner
                          281.799.6505

                          --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:


                          From: roger <toad08551@...>
                          Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                          To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM








                          bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
                          --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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                          > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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                        • Roland Denner
                          Thanks!  I kinda saw the reason for winter, less space to heat.  But, the one hive is so prolific that I figured they needed the space.  I know what my
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                            Thanks!  I kinda saw the reason for winter, less space to heat.  But, the one hive is so prolific that I figured they needed the space.  I know what my project is for next weekend.... Having bees is great!


                            "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                               But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                             
                            Roland Denner
                            281.799.6505

                            --- On Thu, 7/2/09, howard pirtle <zeeduk69@...> wrote:


                            From: howard pirtle <zeeduk69@...>
                            Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                            To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                            Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:53 PM








                            The follower board is for several reasons...it makes correct bee space between last comb being built and back hive...so you dont end up with cross bar built comb or worse...it also makes a space that is easier to maintain the temperature in ...instead of a wide open drafty space....in the wild they dont have follower boards when making new hives but...they build odd shaped combs and lots of brace comb...not condusive to our way of keeping bees...if one incorporates a bee escape on the follower board they can pull the first bar of honey comb and replace it with the bee escape follower board come back later and harvest the remaining bars of honey without disturbing the brood area...HHH

                            --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Roland Denner <rdshu4u@yahoo. com> wrote:

                            From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@yahoo. com>
                            Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                            To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
                            Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 3:53 PM

                            I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I'm a newbie myself, and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I ask.  I have kinda the same problem.  I hived 2 packages of bees on April 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.  I don't have follower boards because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from anywhwere.  Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton tip.  My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other week.  I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the crooked comb.  One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an empty bar.  Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.  Last week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then harvested the honey.  Heat is
                            an important factor when working your
                            hives here in South Central Texas. 
                              I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.

                            "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                               But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                             
                            Roland Denner
                            281.799.6505

                            --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@yahoo. com> wrote:

                            From: roger <toad08551@yahoo. com>
                            Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                            To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
                            Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM

                            bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood, When will they start storing honey?? roger
                            --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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                            > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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                            I decided against the screened bottoms on mine too, perhaps it is easier for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage different species of
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                              I decided against the screened bottoms on mine too, perhaps it is easier
                              for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage
                              different species of ants. I did drill a couple of holes on a friend of
                              mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but
                              could be corked for the winter.
                              mike h



                              On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"
                              <rdshu4u@...> said:
                              > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to
                              > allow the access for the fire ants.  It's sealed up pretty good all
                              > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation.  It
                              > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the
                              > other.
                              >
                              >
                              > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                              >    But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                              >  
                              > Roland Denner
                              > 281.799.6505
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                              > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:
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                              > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                              > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                              > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:47 AM
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                              >
                              > Hi Roland,
                              > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?
                              > I am in the NW part of Oregon.
                              > mike hoffman
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                              > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
                              >
                              > -----Original Message-----
                              > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
                              >
                              > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
                              > To: <TopHive@yahoogroups.com>
                              > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                              >
                              >
                              > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger.  I'm a newbie myself,
                              > and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I
                              > ask.  I have kinda the same problem.  I hived 2 packages of bees on April
                              > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive.  I don't have follower boards
                              > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from
                              > anywhwere.  Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the
                              > top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton
                              > tip.  My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other
                              > week.  I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the
                              > crooked comb.  One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an
                              > empty bar.  Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood.  Last
                              > week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed
                              > off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then
                              > harvested the honey.  Heat is
                              > an important factor when working your
                              > hives here in South Central Texas. 
                              >   I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's.  But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area.  Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
                              >
                              >
                              > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see. 
                              >    But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                              >  
                              > Roland Denner
                              > 281.799.6505
                              >
                              > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:
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                              > From: roger <toad08551@...>
                              > Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                              > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                              > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM
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                              > bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood,
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                              > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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                              > > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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                            • bill lorch
                              DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly closed up... BILL
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                                DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly closed up... BILL

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                                I decided against the screened bottoms on mine too, perhaps it is easier

                                for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage

                                different species of ants. I did drill a couple of holes on a friend of

                                mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but

                                could be corked for the winter.

                                mike h



                                On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"

                                <rdshu4u@...> said:

                                > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to

                                > allow the access for the fire ants. It's sealed up pretty good all

                                > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation. It

                                > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the

                                > other.

                                >

                                >

                                > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.

                                > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."

                                >

                                > Roland Denner

                                > 281.799.6505

                                >

                                > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:

                                >

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                                > From: m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...>

                                > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board

                                > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com

                                > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:47 AM

                                >

                                >

                                > Hi Roland,

                                > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?

                                > I am in the NW part of Oregon.

                                > mike hoffman

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                                > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>

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                                > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57

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                                > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board

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                                > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger. I'm a newbie myself,

                                > and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I

                                > ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April

                                > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards

                                > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from

                                > anywhwere. Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the

                                > top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton

                                > tip. My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other

                                > week. I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the

                                > crooked comb. One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an

                                > empty bar. Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood. Last

                                > week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed

                                > off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then

                                > harvested the honey. Heat is

                                > an important factor when working your

                                > hives here in South Central Texas.

                                > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.

                                >

                                >

                                > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.

                                > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."

                                >

                                > Roland Denner

                                > 281.799.6505

                                >

                                > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:

                                >

                                >

                                > From: roger <toad08551@...>

                                > Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board

                                > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com

                                > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM

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                                > bee keepers here go on vacation??? Thewir still biulding comb for brood,

                                > When will they start storing honey?? roger

                                > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:

                                > >

                                > > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ

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                                Thanks Bill, I m aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance reducer for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another question; What
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                                  Thanks Bill, I'm aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance reducer
                                  for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another
                                  question; What about a mouse guard to keep mice out of the hive during
                                  the winter months when the beez can't defend their turf as well due to
                                  the lower temps? I have heard that a mouse can fit in a hole the size of
                                  a dime, and a rat the size of a quarter.
                                  Thanks,
                                  mike h




                                  On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:03:04 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>
                                  said:
                                  >
                                  > DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make
                                  > cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly
                                  > closed up... BILL
                                  >
                                  > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                  > From: m_hoffman@...
                                  > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700
                                  > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                                  > I decided against the screened bottoms on mine too, perhaps it is
                                  > easier
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                                  > for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage
                                  >
                                  > different species of ants. I did drill a couple of holes on a friend of
                                  >
                                  > mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but
                                  >
                                  > could be corked for the winter.
                                  >
                                  > mike h
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                                  >
                                  > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"
                                  >
                                  > <rdshu4u@...> said:
                                  >
                                  > > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to
                                  >
                                  > > allow the access for the fire ants. It's sealed up pretty good all
                                  >
                                  > > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation. It
                                  >
                                  > > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the
                                  >
                                  > > other.
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
                                  >
                                  > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > Roland Denner
                                  >
                                  > > 281.799.6505
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                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > >
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                                  > >
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                                  > > From: m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...>
                                  >
                                  > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                  >
                                  > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                  >
                                  > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:47 AM
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                                  > >
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                                  > > Hi Roland,
                                  >
                                  > > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?
                                  >
                                  > > I am in the NW part of Oregon.
                                  >
                                  > > mike hoffman
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > -----Original Message-----
                                  >
                                  > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
                                  >
                                  > > To: <TopHive@yahoogroups.com>
                                  >
                                  > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger. I'm a newbie myself,
                                  >
                                  > > and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I
                                  >
                                  > > ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April
                                  >
                                  > > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards
                                  >
                                  > > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from
                                  >
                                  > > anywhwere. Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the
                                  >
                                  > > top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton
                                  >
                                  > > tip. My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other
                                  >
                                  > > week. I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the
                                  >
                                  > > crooked comb. One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an
                                  >
                                  > > empty bar. Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood. Last
                                  >
                                  > > week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed
                                  >
                                  > > off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then
                                  >
                                  > > harvested the honey. Heat is
                                  >
                                  > > an important factor when working your
                                  >
                                  > > hives here in South Central Texas.
                                  >
                                  > > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
                                  >
                                  > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > Roland Denner
                                  >
                                  > > 281.799.6505
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@...> wrote:
                                  >
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                                  > > From: roger <toad08551@...>
                                  >
                                  > > Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                  >
                                  > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 4:22 PM
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                                  >
                                  > > When will they start storing honey?? roger
                                  >
                                  > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > >
                                  >
                                  > > > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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                                • howard pirtle
                                  I use 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch hardware cloth but you could use a solid angle of metal with holes drilled in it..I raise mice and have yet to get a mouse to
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                                    I use 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch hardware cloth but you could use a solid angle of metal with holes drilled in it..I raise mice and have yet to get a mouse to squeeze through the 1/2 wire that is over half grown...in the winter you wont have halfling mice so its no worry unless you live in a really warm area..on the solid metal ones 7/16 inch holes do quite fine...I use a 3 inch reduction on my entrances during the winter just enough to allow some air and water drainage as I tilt mine ever so far forward for drainage....I use the 12-14 gauge welded hardware cloth that one can buy at a feedstore or hardware store..fairly inexpensive..solid metal ones will last the life of the hive mostlikely depending on the type of metal used...HHH

                                    --- On Fri, 7/3/09, mike hoffman <m_hoffman@...> wrote:


                                    From: mike hoffman <m_hoffman@...>
                                    Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                    To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:17 PM








                                    Thanks Bill, I'm aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance reducer
                                    for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another
                                    question; What about a mouse guard to keep mice out of the hive during
                                    the winter months when the beez can't defend their turf as well due to
                                    the lower temps? I have heard that a mouse can fit in a hole the size of
                                    a dime, and a rat the size of a quarter.
                                    Thanks,
                                    mike h

                                    On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:03:04 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@hotmail. com>
                                    said:
                                    >
                                    > DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make
                                    > cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly
                                    > closed up... BILL
                                    >
                                    > To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
                                    > From: m_hoffman@fastmail. fm
                                    > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700
                                    > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                    >
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                                    >
                                    > I decided against the screened bottoms on mine too, perhaps it is
                                    > easier
                                    >
                                    > for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage
                                    >
                                    > different species of ants. I did drill a couple of holes on a friend of
                                    >
                                    > mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but
                                    >
                                    > could be corked for the winter.
                                    >
                                    > mike h
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"
                                    >
                                    > <rdshu4u@yahoo. com> said:
                                    >
                                    > > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to
                                    >
                                    > > allow the access for the fire ants. It's sealed up pretty good all
                                    >
                                    > > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation. It
                                    >
                                    > > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the
                                    >
                                    > > other.
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
                                    >
                                    > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > Roland Denner
                                    >
                                    > > 281.799.6505
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@fastmail. fm <m_hoffman@fastmail. fm> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > From: m_hoffman@fastmail. fm <m_hoffman@fastmail. fm>
                                    >
                                    > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                    >
                                    > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
                                    >
                                    > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:47 AM
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > Hi Roland,
                                    >
                                    > > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?
                                    >
                                    > > I am in the NW part of Oregon.
                                    >
                                    > > mike hoffman
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > -----Original Message-----
                                    >
                                    > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@yahoo. com>
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57
                                    >
                                    > > To: <TopHive@yahoogroups .com>
                                    >
                                    > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger. I'm a newbie myself,
                                    >
                                    > > and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I
                                    >
                                    > > ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April
                                    >
                                    > > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards
                                    >
                                    > > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from
                                    >
                                    > > anywhwere. Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the
                                    >
                                    > > top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton
                                    >
                                    > > tip. My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other
                                    >
                                    > > week. I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the
                                    >
                                    > > crooked comb. One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an
                                    >
                                    > > empty bar. Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood. Last
                                    >
                                    > > week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed
                                    >
                                    > > off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then
                                    >
                                    > > harvested the honey. Heat is
                                    >
                                    > > an important factor when working your
                                    >
                                    > > hives here in South Central Texas.
                                    >
                                    > > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
                                    >
                                    > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > Roland Denner
                                    >
                                    > > 281.799.6505
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, roger <toad08551@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                    >
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                                    > > From: roger <toad08551@yahoo. com>
                                    >
                                    > > Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                                    > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
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                                    > > When will they start storing honey?? roger
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                                    > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups .com, "roger" <toad08551@. ..> wrote:
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                                    > > > My top bar has the brood at the following board end. checked yesterday and went down thru hive bar by bar. Lots of brood and VERY lil honey on bars. 16 bars drawn by swarm. finally toward end i found #3bar was half honey and #1-2 had good amount of honey. I put new bars in #1 - 3 and 5 spot. Is that a good way to give them more room to store more honey???? nubee Roger NJ
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                                    to be honest with you i have never had mouse probs in all my time, Than i was using lang and placed a 7/8 hole on front of the second hive body,Come to think
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                                      to be honest with you i have never had mouse probs in all my time, Than i was using lang and placed a 7/8 hole on front of the second hive body,Come to think of it it could have also been in the lower because i used to switch in spring so i had ready made brood chamber. But ive never had mous probs. an usualy where i was snow covered the lower entrence /landing bord. Not sure what to advise here. ill look that one up 4u Bill
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                                      Thanks Bill, I'm aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance reducer

                                      for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another

                                      question; What about a mouse guard to keep mice out of the hive during

                                      the winter months when the beez can't defend their turf as well due to

                                      the lower temps? I have heard that a mouse can fit in a hole the size of

                                      a dime, and a rat the size of a quarter.

                                      Thanks,

                                      mike h



                                      On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:03:04 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>

                                      said:

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                                      > DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make

                                      > cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly

                                      > closed up... BILL

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                                      > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com

                                      > From: m_hoffman@...

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                                      > mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but

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                                      > mike h

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                                      > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"

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                                      > > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to

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                                      > > allow the access for the fire ants. It's sealed up pretty good all

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                                      > > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation. It

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                                      > > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the

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                                      > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.

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                                      > > Roland Denner

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                                      > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:

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                                      > > Hi Roland,

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                                      > > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?

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                                      > > I am in the NW part of Oregon.

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                                      > > mike hoffman

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                                      > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>

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                                      > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:57

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                                      > > I've been wondering where everyone went also Roger. I'm a newbie myself,

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                                      > > ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April

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                                      > > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards

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                                      > > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from

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                                      > > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.

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                                      > > Roland Denner

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                                      > > 281.799.6505

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                                      > > Subject: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board

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                                      Thanks for the suggestions. One of my hives has a front entrance with a 1/2 slot entrance which I have a reducer for. But the other TBH has a side entrance
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                                        Thanks for the suggestions. One of my hives has a front entrance with a
                                        1/2" slot entrance which I have a reducer for. But the other TBH has a
                                        side entrance with three 3/4" holes drilled in the side. For the winter
                                        I was thinking of plugging two of the holes and leaving one for
                                        entrance/exit. The hardware cloth is a good idea for a hole that big,
                                        thanks. I also have seen a few slugs around one of the entrances, and
                                        the slugs in the Pacific NW can be huge.
                                        I have read that the beez will seal with propolis any intruder that
                                        happens to die inside the hive. Has anyone ever seen this? The more I
                                        read about propolis, the more amazed I am. My daughter is a violinist,
                                        and one of my hives are Italians. When I told her that these Italian
                                        bees are the decendants that were involved in the making of Stradivarius
                                        violins she looked at me like I was crazy. Then I showed her that their
                                        propolis was one of the main ingredients in the varnish, she was amazed
                                        too!
                                        Thanks,
                                        mike h


                                        On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:52:38 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>
                                        said:
                                        >
                                        > to be honest with you i have never had mouse probs in all my time, Than i
                                        > was using lang and placed a 7/8 hole on front of the second hive
                                        > body,Come to think of it it could have also been in the lower because i
                                        > used to switch in spring so i had ready made brood chamber. But ive never
                                        > had mous probs. an usualy where i was snow covered the lower entrence
                                        > /landing bord. Not sure what to advise here. ill look that one up 4u Bill
                                        > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
                                        > From: m_hoffman@...
                                        > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:17:41 -0700
                                        > Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                                        > Thanks Bill, I'm aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance
                                        > reducer
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                                        > for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another
                                        >
                                        > question; What about a mouse guard to keep mice out of the hive during
                                        >
                                        > the winter months when the beez can't defend their turf as well due to
                                        >
                                        > the lower temps? I have heard that a mouse can fit in a hole the size of
                                        >
                                        > a dime, and a rat the size of a quarter.
                                        >
                                        > Thanks,
                                        >
                                        > mike h
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                                        > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:03:04 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@...>
                                        >
                                        > said:
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make
                                        >
                                        > > cleansing flights during the WINTER They will not survive being totaly
                                        >
                                        > > closed up... BILL
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
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                                        > > From: m_hoffman@...
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                                        > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700
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                                        > > for the bees to seal up the bottoms with propolis to discourage
                                        >
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                                        > > different species of ants. I did drill a couple of holes on a friend of
                                        >
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                                        > > mine's hive box to allow for some cross ventilation during hot days, but
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                                        > > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:13:44 -0700 (PDT), "Roland Denner"
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                                        > > <rdshu4u@...> said:
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                                        > > > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to
                                        >
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                                        > > > allow the access for the fire ants. It's sealed up pretty good all
                                        >
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                                        > > > around, but I left one bar out in the rear to help with ventilation. It
                                        >
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                                        > > > was a test between the two hives and that one seems to do better that the
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                                        > > > other.
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                                        > > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
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                                        > > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
                                        >
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                                        > > > Roland Denner
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                                        > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, m_hoffman@... <m_hoffman@...> wrote:
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                                        > > > Subject: Re: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                                        > > > I am a new beekeeper as well, do you have screened bottoms on your hives?
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                                        > > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@...>
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                                        >
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                                        > > > and luckily, there have been posts which answer my questions before I
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > ask. I have kinda the same problem. I hived 2 packages of bees on April
                                        >
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                                        > > > 8 and have 16 bars of brood in each hive. I don't have follower boards
                                        >
                                        > >
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                                        > > > because I didn't understand the reason and couldn't find a reason from
                                        >
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                                        > > > anywhwere. Anyway, my girls are to a point where they are filling the
                                        >
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                                        >
                                        > > > top 3/4 of the comb with honey, but the queen is laying in the botton
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > tip. My hives are a little messy, so I clean them up about every other
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > week. I've taken 8 lbs. of honey in the last 3 weeks jst from the
                                        >
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                                        >
                                        > > > crooked comb. One thing I did do was replace a really bad comb with an
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > empty bar. Behind the empty bar was where there was less brood. Last
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > week, I had a really crooked bar that was about to break, so I trimmed
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > off the brood and placed it in the back of the hive to hatch, then
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                        > > > harvested the honey. Heat is
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                                        > > > an important factor when working your
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                                        > > > hives here in South Central Texas.
                                        >
                                        > >
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                                        > > > I have read that some people will fashion a queen excluder for their tbh's. But, from what I've read, the honey flow really just depends on the "what & when" plants are blooming in your area. Here, it appears that my bees figure they need to start putting away a little for winter and have slacked up on bee production.
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                                        > > > "No one knows what a boy is worth, we'll have to wait and see.
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                                        > > > But every man in a noble place, a boy once used to be."
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                                        Ya I remember those banana slugs...lots of fun was had with lady fingers (fire cracker) around this time of the year..I used to live in the
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                                          Ya I remember those banana slugs...lots of fun was had with "lady fingers" (fire cracker) around this time of the year..I used to live in the Centralia/Chehalis area..yes they will cover anything on the bottom with propolis if its large enough to not be able to carry out...HHH

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                                          From: mike hoffman <m_hoffman@...>
                                          Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
                                          To: TopHive@yahoogroups.com
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                                          Thanks for the suggestions. One of my hives has a front entrance with a
                                          1/2" slot entrance which I have a reducer for. But the other TBH has a
                                          side entrance with three 3/4" holes drilled in the side. For the winter
                                          I was thinking of plugging two of the holes and leaving one for
                                          entrance/exit. The hardware cloth is a good idea for a hole that big,
                                          thanks. I also have seen a few slugs around one of the entrances, and
                                          the slugs in the Pacific NW can be huge.
                                          I have read that the beez will seal with propolis any intruder that
                                          happens to die inside the hive. Has anyone ever seen this? The more I
                                          read about propolis, the more amazed I am. My daughter is a violinist,
                                          and one of my hives are Italians. When I told her that these Italian
                                          bees are the decendants that were involved in the making of Stradivarius
                                          violins she looked at me like I was crazy. Then I showed her that their
                                          propolis was one of the main ingredients in the varnish, she was amazed
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                                          On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:52:38 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@hotmail. com>
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                                          > to be honest with you i have never had mouse probs in all my time, Than i
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                                          > body,Come to think of it it could have also been in the lower because i
                                          > used to switch in spring so i had ready made brood chamber. But ive never
                                          > had mous probs. an usualy where i was snow covered the lower entrence
                                          > /landing bord. Not sure what to advise here. ill look that one up 4u Bill
                                          > To: TopHive@yahoogroups .com
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                                          > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700
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                                            --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, howard pirtle <zeeduk69@...> wrote:
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                                            > Ya I remember those banana slugs...lots of fun was had with "lady fingers" (fire cracker) around this time of the year..I used to live in the Centralia/Chehalis area..yes they will cover anything on the bottom with propolis if its large enough to not be able to carry out...HHH
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                                            > From: mike hoffman <m_hoffman@...>
                                            > Subject: RE: [TopHive] Re: brood at following board
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                                            > Thanks for the suggestions. One of my hives has a front entrance with a
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                                            > I was thinking of plugging two of the holes and leaving one for
                                            > entrance/exit. The hardware cloth is a good idea for a hole that big,
                                            > thanks. I also have seen a few slugs around one of the entrances, and
                                            > the slugs in the Pacific NW can be huge.
                                            > I have read that the beez will seal with propolis any intruder that
                                            > happens to die inside the hive. Has anyone ever seen this? The more I
                                            > read about propolis, the more amazed I am. My daughter is a violinist,
                                            > and one of my hives are Italians. When I told her that these Italian
                                            > bees are the decendants that were involved in the making of Stradivarius
                                            > violins she looked at me like I was crazy. Then I showed her that their
                                            > propolis was one of the main ingredients in the varnish, she was amazed
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                                            > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:52:38 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@hotmail. com>
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                                            > > to be honest with you i have never had mouse probs in all my time, Than i
                                            > > was using lang and placed a 7/8 hole on front of the second hive
                                            > > body,Come to think of it it could have also been in the lower because i
                                            > > used to switch in spring so i had ready made brood chamber. But ive never
                                            > > had mous probs. an usualy where i was snow covered the lower entrence
                                            > > /landing bord. Not sure what to advise here. ill look that one up 4u Bill
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                                            > > Thanks Bill, I'm aware the beez need an exit, I made an entrance
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                                            > > for the hive of mine I had last winter. But this brings me to another
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                                            > > the lower temps? I have heard that a mouse can fit in a hole the size of
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                                            > > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:03:04 -0500, "bill lorch" <jetphixer@hotmail. com>
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                                            > > > DO NOT CLOSE ALL THE HOLES UP IN WINTER!!!!!! The beez need to make
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                                            > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700
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                                            > > > > Nope. I decided against the screened bottoms because I didn't want to
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                                            > > > > From: Roland Denner <rdshu4u@yahoo. com>
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