973Re: aaagggh, my hives are so SLOW
- Sep 14, 2007Carnoliian and that's what I'm saying, they didn't cut back on brood
rearing & used up most of storage,.
But there bringing in nectar today fast & furious . You don't suppose
those bees know what there doing do you?
--- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "Jim & Rebecca Payne"
> What race are your bees? That will have a lot to do with the brood
> raise going into winter. Staying the same numbers or cutting backand also
> adjusting with what they have in storage.style
> Jim Payne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Croteau" <davidlcroteau@...>
> To: <TopHive@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:48 AM
> Subject: [TopHive] Re: aaagggh, my hives are so SLOW
> > Hi Gary'
> > The bars 15" (13 working) & about 10" deep, maybe 35 bars. Kenya
> > Checked all hives yesterday. Didn't disturb brood nests.out of
> > Found lots of empty combs in all hives, moved to rear in tbhs,
> > lc hives, full honey super on top.new
> > Put what little honey I found next to nest.
> > It seems bees use a lot of honey razing new bees & don't bring in
> > much nectar.
> > They have maybe three weeks to fell some of those empty combs .
> > Will they get enough, good question.
> > Seems they were not worried about using up all stores to raise
> > bees, lots of brood everywhere, but it worries me.all
> > With brood & honey, about 17 bars in use.
> > The one the swarm entered this spring has 13 bars all brood, no
> > honey bars, they got there work cut out for them.now
> > Maybe they know something I don't, no frost this year, maybe no
> > winter.
> > But I just built a fire this morning (44*).
> > Dave
> > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "nicty95" <nicty95@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "David Croteau" <davidlcroteau@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 8/11/07 Just checked my 4 tbh's "SLOW" is the word I would use
> > also.
> > > > There is absolutely no surplus honey.
> > > > They'll have enough to over winter on I'm sure.
> > > > One is two yrs old & is the same shape as the other three.
> > > > Was going to convert my other three LC hives to top bars, but
> > ILangstroth
> > > > don't think it's a good idea, no production.
> > > > That may be why some super them.
> > > > Maybe we can use the natural size bees to install into
> > > > hives, Just the reverse of what we been doing.15th &
> > > > Use top bar hives as over wintering nucs.
> > > > I harvested 300 lbs from the three Langstroth hives, Jul
> > Augdeep
> > > > 5th, about 150 pounds each time.
> > > > TBH's, "ZERO."
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > Don't get frustrated yet. What size bars are you using and how
> > isbeing
> > > your hive? If the volume is too large they will build a natural
> > nest
> > > and store everything around the brood making it impossible to
> > harvest.
> > > This is not necessarily a bad thing. If you put the bees that
> > survive
> > > fine on the TBH comb back into a Lang the difference in
> > environments
> > > will be the stress factor which make the difference in them
> > ableinside
> > > to handle the mite load. In other words they will show the same
> > > behavior but will not tolerate the mites and you will be back to
> > > square one!
> > > The small cell theory was on the right track it just was not
> > > everything. The real advantage of the small cell bees occurs
> > abees
> > > natural nest and you don't need foundation to get there. The
> > youbet
> > > have now may never build you a comb you can harvest, but I will
> > > they survive without any treatments. All you have to do isadjust
> > thethat
> > > environment to force them to do what they would naturally do if
> > thier
> > > cavity was a little smaller and that would be to make a storage
> > area
> > > behind the brood nest then you can harvest some honey! I am
> > > corresopnding with a beek who has the total opposite problem
> > youhe
> > > have he is worried about the congestion in the hive and weather
> > > should pull honey combs to keeep them from swarming. Guess whathis
> > > sizes are. 14 inch bars and 9 inches deep with a total of 24bars!
> > > Gary9/14/07
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