953Re: aaagggh, my hives are so SLOW
- Sep 5, 2007--- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "David Croteau" <davidlcroteau@...>
> 8/11/07 Just checked my 4 tbh's "SLOW" is the word I would use also.
> There is absolutely no surplus honey.
> They'll have enough to over winter on I'm sure.
> One is two yrs old & is the same shape as the other three.
> Was going to convert my other three LC hives to top bars, but now I
> don't think it's a good idea, no production.
> That may be why some super them.
> Maybe we can use the natural size bees to install into Langstroth
> hives, Just the reverse of what we been doing.
> Use top bar hives as over wintering nucs.
> I harvested 300 lbs from the three Langstroth hives, Jul 15th & Aug
> 5th, about 150 pounds each time.
> TBH's, "ZERO."
Don't get frustrated yet. What size bars are you using and how deep is
your hive? If the volume is too large they will build a natural nest
and store everything around the brood making it impossible to harvest.
This is not necessarily a bad thing. If you put the bees that survive
fine on the TBH comb back into a Lang the difference in environments
will be the stress factor which make the difference in them being able
to handle the mite load. In other words they will show the same
behavior but will not tolerate the mites and you will be back to
The small cell theory was on the right track it just was not
everything. The real advantage of the small cell bees occurs inside a
natural nest and you don't need foundation to get there. The bees you
have now may never build you a comb you can harvest, but I will bet
they survive without any treatments. All you have to do is adjust the
environment to force them to do what they would naturally do if thier
cavity was a little smaller and that would be to make a storage area
behind the brood nest then you can harvest some honey! I am
corresopnding with a beek who has the total opposite problem that you
have he is worried about the congestion in the hive and weather he
should pull honey combs to keeep them from swarming. Guess what his
sizes are. 14 inch bars and 9 inches deep with a total of 24 bars!
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