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937Re: aaagggh, my hives are so SLOW

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  • bloomvillebee
    Aug 22, 2007
      Thanks for taking the time to reply, Kristin. It will be interesting to see if others weigh in. I
      am interested in as many takes on this as possible. I'm a nervous bee-mom!!! :)
      Gerry

      --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "kmdaven" <kmdaven@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Gerry,
      > If I am understanding correctly, as long as there are 12 drawn bars,
      > you're OK. I'm also a cold climate, zone 4, first frost by mid-
      > september and no dandelion until April 15. If I understand what
      > my "mentor" here is saying, as fall approaches, the bees make less
      > brood and more space is used for honey storage. So that is 12 bars
      > of "mixed" comb. I didn't mess around too much this time in the brood
      > chamber either but it seemed like they were about 50/50 for brood
      > comb and honey comb. We'll see how they do. I'm nervous. I wish I
      > wasn't so close to the threshold given to me, but then again, we've
      > got three full weeks left at least (maybe more) and there's SO much
      > blooming, and our "monsoon" rains have stopped so the bees have dawn
      > to dusk for foraging instead of just short periods in the morning
      > before the storms come. I'm hopeful.
      >
      > Hopefully someone with more knowledge will weigh in on this. I'm a
      > total newbie.
      >
      > Kristen
      >
      > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "bloomvillebee" <zychskyfarm@>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Kristin,
      > > When you say 12 bars is considered sufficient, do you mean 12 bars
      > of honeycomb or
      > > mixed comb? I am still a little unclear as to how to assess winter
      > stores for a TBH and
      > > welcome any insights. It still seems that most of the combs in my
      > hives are being used for
      > > brood-rearing. But since I am trying not to mess with the brood
      > area too much, I'm not
      > > sure if they're now storing honey in the brood combs or what.
      > >
      > > If anyone can weigh in on how to clearly assess whether winter
      > stores are adequate
      > > without taking the whole brood nest apart, I'd love advice. I am
      > located in Northern NY,
      > > where winters are pretty long, wet, and cold. Zone 4.
      > > Best,
      > > Gerry
      > >
      > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "kmdaven" <kmdaven@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Thanks David
      > > > My two TBH's started at 3 bars each and now are both 11-12 bars.
      > I
      > > > think they will get through the winter. I'll see what they do
      > next
      > > > spring/summer before deciding to do Langstroths. I have a
      > Langstroth
      > > > hive that started at 4 frames and is now 15. So it grew much
      > faster.
      > > > This is my first year keeping bees so it's hard for me to draw
      > any
      > > > conclusions. I'm glad my two TBHs at least seem they will likely
      > be
      > > > stocked for winter- as I understand, 12 bars is considered
      > > > sufficient. I'm hopeful they will each have at least 13 or more.
      > I
      > > > read such conflicting things about the foundationless/TBH method
      > > > (whether or not it is more work for the bees, etc) and I think
      > most
      > > > likely it depends on your precise climate/nectar situation. I
      > know a
      > > > guy who produces hundreds of pounds of honey from top bars each
      > year
      > > > and he maintains he gets similar yields. But he is in a longer
      > > > season, warmer climate than me. We'll see.
      > > >
      > > > Kristen
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "David Croteau" <davidlcroteau@>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi Kristen
      > > > > 8/11/07 Just checked my 4 tbh's "SLOW" is the word I would use
      > also.
      > > > > There is absolutely no surplus honey.
      > > > > They'll have enough to over winter on I'm sure.
      > > > > One is two yrs old & is the same shape as the other three.
      > > > > Was going to convert my other three LC hives to top bars, but
      > now I
      > > > > don't think it's a good idea, no production.
      > > > > That may be why some super them.
      > > > > Maybe we can use the natural size bees to install into
      > Langstroth
      > > > > hives, Just the reverse of what we been doing.
      > > > > Use top bar hives as over wintering nucs.
      > > > > I harvested 300 lbs from the three Langstroth hives, Jul 15th &
      > Aug
      > > > > 5th, about 150 pounds each time.
      > > > > TBH's, "ZERO."
      > > > > Dave
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In TopHive@yahoogroups.com, "kmdaven" <kmdaven@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > HI there, and thanks to everyone on the thoughts on TBH vs.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
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