1601Re: [TopHive] Top Bar Hives and the State of Florida
- Apr 10, 2009Posted by: "jeff hartman
John Missing wrote:
>> 1) Can I use the Langs, but use top bars instead of frames?****
>i don't think just using top bars would work in such a wide box, butthey do sell foundationless frames
It has been done...!
And you could turn the TB's, short way. Or not. I would.
>>2) If I am doing that, can I manage them like a Warre hive,****
>>adding boxes to the bottom rather than the top?
>yes you could, but why not just build some warre hives. they can bemade
legal in the united states by use of frames, or just do what i am doing
and not register them. they really are the most natural and bee
hive there is
Some Langoliers <lol> ARE subbering Langs.
And... some subber, normal with a Warre' (nadir, opposite of super,)
But some Ware's, super, or do so to a degree, and/or midder.
It seems timing is important in a super or midder issue, as this is
thought to incraese disease strtesses, except when the space is
in great need, so flows need to be accounted for with this
4) How can I
> strengthen the comb on a top bar in order that they can be handledfor
> inspection?No need at all. You merely hold comb vertically, upside right or down,
and not out flat like a full dinner plate. Non-issue.
>snippet...with warres you can use half frames or stainlesssteel wire like in roger delons warre hives
> Posted by: "Michael Vanecek"TTBH hives are often made wide and deep enough to take a deep frame.
They'll work fine with just top-bars. BUT, they're too short. 10 frames
will fill up in no time and suddenly you've got swarming and no honey.
Uh, this I misunderstand, or it is not a lang, "deep." as a Warre is
about 8" deep, plus 1/2" for frame (top bar) space. One usually starts
with 2, Warre' boxes. Or gets the 2nd one, soon. A thrid is usually a
spring thing. A 4th is if you had good luck. Few exceed that. They
ARE a "small hive type." production is limited a couple ways. Some
DO use them in production, in Europe.
>The best way to go with that is a long-hive of about 50 top-bars and afollower-board. That way the hive can expand as it needs. <snip>
Also, give Warre a consideration, especially if further north.
>MikeJohn, as I, am in it for pollination, ahead of great globs of honey
production. I very seriously looked at the "common" hTBH.
I gradually came over to Warre'.
Different cars for different uses/needs for different folks.
For the artist or anal, some oif us are looking at Warre's in a hex
or octagon, closer to a tree cavity. Except for art, or stealth, this
more benefits those in very cold places, it is felt. However,
a guy in hungary is basing a whole enterprise on a hex-Warre'
variant; (a "Gedde," technically.)
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