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Review - Kalevala: the Epic Poem of Finland

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  • Jack
    Supposedly an inspiration for Tolkien s sagas of Middle Earth (the tale of Turin Turambar.at least), Sibelius and surely also for Longfellow s Hiawatha: Thus
    Message 1 of 5 , Jun 11, 2012
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    Supposedly an inspiration for Tolkien's sagas of Middle Earth (the tale of
    Turin Turambar.at least), Sibelius and surely also for Longfellow's
    Hiawatha:

    Thus spake reckless Lemminkainen

    Hast thou seen the tumti tumti?

    Tumtitumti tumtitumti

    Tumtitumti tumtitumti



    Yes said ancient Wainamoinen

    Long I journeyed for to find it

    Dawn to dusk and then another

    Then the third day found the tumti

    In Wainola's silver forests

    There I saw the tumtitumti

    Tumtitumti tumtitumti



    It's easy to tease, but still worth a look.

    The Finnish names are a bit challenging to the anglophone ear - Wainamoinen,
    Lemminkainen Kaukomieli, Kyllikki - but if you can cope with Treebeard's
    Orofarne, Lassemista, Carnimirie, you should manage okay. In fact, if you
    are familiar with Quenya (the language of Tolkien's High Elves) then the
    Finnish will seem strangely familiar.

    It's a long, long poem - it must be quite something to be able to recite it
    from memory. I'm sure there are still Finns who do, just as Scots learn Tam
    O'Shanter off by heart and for much the same reasons.

    Kalevala is the Finnish heartland; at the time when the poem was collected
    from the oral tradition and translated into English, Finland was a duchy in
    the north east of Imperial Russia, and much of the land still lies in Russia
    since the ill-fated Winter War of 1940. (You may have missed it with so
    much else going on at the time).











    Jack Whittaker is a database administrator specialising in SQL Server
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  • Bruce Alan Wilson
    The metre is familiar to us because Longfellow used it in the Song of Hiawatha. By the shores of Geetchee Gumi By the shining Big-Sea-Water Stood the wigwam
    Message 2 of 5 , Jun 12, 2012
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      The metre is familiar to us because Longfellow used it in the "Song of Hiawatha."


      By the shores of Geetchee Gumi
      By the shining Big-Sea-Water
      Stood the wigwam of Nokomis
      Daughter of the Moon, Nokomis. . .
       
       
    • Jack
      Yes indeed I suppose Longfellow might have just arrived at the metre independently - it s hardly difficult! ... Jack From: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com
      Message 3 of 5 , Jun 12, 2012
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        Yes indeed

         

        I suppose Longfellow might have just arrived at the metre independently – it’s hardly difficult!

         

        :o)
        Jack

         

        From: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Alan Wilson
        Sent: 12 June 2012 12:52
        To: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [TolkienDiscussions] Re: Review - Kalevala: the Epic Poem of Finland

         




        The metre is familiar to us because Longfellow used it in the "Song of Hiawatha."


        By the shores of Geetchee Gumi

        By the shining Big-Sea-Water

        Stood the wigwam of Nokomis

        Daughter of the Moon, Nokomis. . .

         

         




      • Bruce Alan Wilson
        Have you ever read Lewis Carrol s parody, Hiawatha s Photography ? Bruce Alan Wilson http://wvdemolay.com http://www.demolay.org
        Message 4 of 5 , Jun 13, 2012
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          Have you ever read Lewis Carrol's parody, "Hiawatha's Photography"?
           
           
        • Jack
          I think I might have seen this before: http://people.virginia.edu/~ds8s/carroll/hia.html ... Jack From: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com
          Message 5 of 5 , Jun 13, 2012
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            I think I might have seen this before:

            http://people.virginia.edu/~ds8s/carroll/hia.html

             

             

            :o)
            Jack

             

            From: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Alan Wilson
            Sent: 13 June 2012 17:36
            To: TolkienDiscussions@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [TolkienDiscussions] Re: Review - Kalevala: the Epic Poem of Finland

             




            Have you ever read Lewis Carrol's parody, "Hiawatha's Photography"?

             

             




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