18612RE: [TolkienDiscussions] Re: Chapter One Comments
- Dec 1, 2007<<In the Silmarillion, it is stated that orcs have live 'after the manner of
the children of Eru'. That means that they were either Elves or Men at the
beginning which Meklor/Morgoth corrupted.>>
I believe orcs are corrupted elves. Maybe goblins are corrupted men (i.e.
smaller and weaker than elves) or just orcs who have diminished.
<<As for dragons, they may have bee minor Maiar whom Morgoth put in to
Since some Maiar seem to have inhabited trees, brooks, etc. I have no
problem seeing them inhabiting reptiles with a little push from Morgoth.
Certainly Morgoth's desire for "the secret flame" would seem to make it
likely that he would be experimanting with all sorts of fell
genetics/reproductive/evolutionary things in order to "create" life.
I confess I don't see how it is that dwarves can not be said to have life
"after the manner of the children of Eru," also. Despite their odd origin
they certainly had to have had souls. I don't recall if their fate after
death is ever described.
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