16763Re: [TolkienDiscussions] Tolkien works
- Nov 1, 2006I think I can answer the other part as I am just finishing reading the two 'Book
of Lost Tales' and am also in the middle of The Silmarillion for the second time.
'Unfinished Tales' and 'The Book of Lost Tales 1 & 2' are overlapping earlier
drafts of 'The Silmarillion'. They contain earlier, previously unpublished
drafts of the tales told in 'The Silmarillion'. The drafts are usually longer
and more detailed than the final versions that made it into 'The Silmarillion'.
Tolkien removed a lot of detail and changed many events, names, and characters
in his final drafts of these stories.
Quoting Gary Bellinger <yesgaz@...>:
> Don't know about the first question but there are actually 4 parts. Part 2 of-------------------------------------------
> 'the histories Lord of the Rings' is The Treason of Isengard, which is Volume
> 7 of the History of Middle Earth series. Part 3 is Vol. 8, The War of the
> Ring while Part 4 is Vol. 9, Sauron Defeated: The End of the Third Age.
> Volume 1: The Book of Lost Tales, Part 1
> Volume 2: The Book of Lost Tales, Part 2
> Volume 3:The Lays of Beleriand
> Volume 4:The Shaping of Middle Earth
> Volume 5: The Lost Road
> Volume 6: The Return of the Shadow - The History of Middle Earth, Part 1
> Volume 7: The Treason of Isengard - The History of Middle Earth, Part 2
> Volume 8: The War of the Ring - - The History of Middle Earth, Part 3
> Volume 9: Sauron Defeated: The End of the Third Age - The History of Middle
> Earth, Part 4
> Volume 10: Morgoth's Ring - The Later Silmarillion, Part 1
> Volume 11: The War of the Jewels - The Later Silmarillion, Part 2
> Volume 12: The Peoples of Middle Earth
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:46 AM
> Subject: [TolkienDiscussions] Tolkien works
> Can someone enlighten me? Where does the Complete History of Middle Earth
> Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3 fit into the History of Middle Earth Volumes 1
> through 12? Or does it not? Are these three books outside the HOME series?
> Also, is Unfinished Tales the same thing you'd find in The Book of Lost Tales
> 1 and 2 (aka The History of Middle Earth Volumes 1 and 2)?
> Final question: The History of Middle Earth Volume 6 is subtitled, The
> Return of the Shadow, the histories of the Lord of the Rings, Part 1. Is
> there a Part 2 or is The Lord of the Rings considered Part 2?
> Thank you!
> "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
> atrocities." -- Voltaire
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