Re: Mystery Book
> Wow! I have definitely not seen this book before. I just checkedout the
> scans in the photos area of the egroup and I can see why you aretrying to
> track it down. I urge all and sundry to look at the scans and seeif you can
> identify the name of the book. If we can find the title, I canorder it on
> Interlibrary loan and (if it is past copyright) scan the images andpatterns
> for the Manifesto so we can all have access to it.I do have nearly all the patterns, and the photos I can touch up in
PSP. I had a look in the Fine Arts Library too, and it was not in
there. If I can find out where it has gone I will dfinatly be getting
it out on interloan.
I also have some nearly fallen apart Girls Own Annuals that I've been
copying articles from:
http://frazzledfrau.tripod.com/titanic/index.htm for this very
purpose of saving the books for other people.
Just looking for the catalogue:
There is a book in there from 1909, but it does look like the one.
Author: Clinch, George, 1860-
Title: English costume from prehistoric times to the end of the
Published: London, Methuen & co. 
Description: xxii p., 1 l..,295,  p. incl. illus., plates. front.,
plates, ports. 23 cm.
LC Subject Heading(s): Costume--England.
England--Social life and customs.
Location: GENERAL LIBRARY
Call Number: 391.0942 C64
Another looks tempting:
Author: Planché, J. R. (James Robinson), 1796-1880.
Title: History of British costume : from the earliest period to the
close of the eighteenth century / by J.R. Planché.
Edition: 3rd ed.
Published: London : George Bell & Sons, 1893.
Description: xxiv, 416,  p. : ill. ; 19 cm.
LC Subject Heading(s): Costume--Great Britain--History.
Location: OFF-CAMPUS STORAGE (General A)
Call Number: S08527
Perhaps too early but it fits the size... and page numbers.
I'm just doing a search on the net for both authors.
- I'm wrong, I HAVE seen it before, probably when I was in HS. I was
going through a file folder of very old xeroxes I made and found a
copy I made long ago. It is definitely the same book. It is "Dress
Design" from "The Artistic Crafts Series of Technical Handbooks"
edited by W.R. Lethaby in 1913. My copies look like crap however.
Many of the clothes are matches to V&A garments still on display in
the costume court and recognizable as such. So are you going to copy
it and put it on the web? If not let me know and I'll try and get it
on ILL to do so.
--- In TheCostumersManifesto@y..., "neimhaille" <vcairistiona@h...>
> > Wow! I have definitely not seen this book before
> I'm wrong, I HAVE seen it before, probably when I was in HS. I wasis "Dress
> going through a file folder of very old xeroxes I made and found a
> copy I made long ago. It is definitely the same book. It
> Design" from "The Artistic Crafts Series of Technical Handbooks"Thank you:). Now I can do a hunt. I loved it so much, I'd really like
> edited by W.R. Lethaby in 1913.
my own copy.
I just did a quick look, the only book by that name is
Author: Hughes, Talbot.
Title: Dress design, an account of costume for artists and
Published: [s.l.] : [s.n.], 1932.
hmmm.... they don't have any detail as to the size or anything. I'm
going to the Uni tonight, and just have a look at it.
This *is* the one, just found mention of it elsewhere:
HUGHES, Talbot. Dress design, an account of costume for
artists and dressmakers. London, 1913. Black and white
illustrations. Includes an appendix "Cutting to scale".GT5
I'll ask if someone at rehersal could let me use their card to get it
on loan, or else see if I can get it on ILL. Funny how I never saw it
when I was there...
- Hi! I just wanted to respond to this topic of disintegrating pictorial
research and resources. I, too, have become both frustrated and nauseuous
from the quality of microfilm sources. And, although the oldest books are
in danger, even more recent magazine research can be hard to find. This is
why I have an arrangement with my local library. They keep periodicals for
one year, after that they throw them out. A wonderful librarian keeps them
for me, and gives me a stack every time I go to the library. I then, as I
have the spare time, go through the magazines and eliminate the pages of no
use costume-wise. I'm hoping, when I can afford to buy the equipment, to
scan all these photos onto CD-Rom and onto a web site. This will be several
years down the road. In the meantime, I reassure myself with the thought
that in fifty years, these pictures will be invaluable. And of course,
whenever I am antiquing I buy old (1890 - 1920) magazines, catalogs, and
photographs wherever I can find them. They usually go for cheap, since we
are quite possibly the only ones that find value in them.
>From: "Tara Maginnis, Ph.D., Costume Designer" <Tara@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Re: Mystery Book
>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:59:59 -0900
> > I just uploaded two images fromt he book to the photo section of the
> > list.
> > The first is the dress that also appears in your book, and the second
> > is the pattern that accompanies it. There are a *lot* of patterns in
> > the back section. I have a feeling this book has actually been lost,
> > as it is not in the catalogue.
>Wow! I have definitely not seen this book before. I just checked out the
>scans in the photos area of the egroup and I can see why you are trying to
>track it down. I urge all and sundry to look at the scans and see if you
>identify the name of the book. If we can find the title, I can order it on
>Interlibrary loan and (if it is past copyright) scan the images and
>for the Manifesto so we can all have access to it.
>Let me get on my soapbox here too: It is an unfortunate fact that nearly
>all paper made and used for books and magazines from about 1830-1990 was
>printed on acid based paper. This means nearly every book, newspaper and
>magazine produced during that time is on paper that ultimately self
>destructs, like a time bomb. The libraries of the world are in a crisis
>what is to be done to save these resources. To save the information on this
>paper requires highly expensive de-acidification or comparatively
>microfilming. The simple
>economics of library funding means that libraries will mostly use
>(which is troublesome for costumers), as well as have to pick and choose
>which books and magazines are "important" enough to go to the expense of
>copying. I need hardly tell you where items like Turn of the Century
>tailoring and millinery manuals will rate in this lifeboat situation.
>Therefore, for the good of future costumers, (including one's self,) we
>need to notice when books like this are on the shelf of our local library
>falling apart. A book that is coming apart is a book whose days are
>soon to be thrown out. In the case of some pre 1910 catalogs, and drafting
>and sewing manuals, you may be looking at the last one of it's kind. The
>libraries can't afford to save all of them, so, you need to grab these
>before they are gone, and either plain paper copy them onto an acid free
>paper like Copysource (most modern copy paper is acid free now) and bind up
>the copies, OR EVEN BETTER scan the copies and save them on CD ROM disks so
>they can replace the originals. If each of us does this with a few books,
>will save these endangered resources, as well as quickly and cheaply expand
>our own private libraries of rare research works. IN ADDITION in the case
>copyright expired works, if you take the time to save them as scanned
>in jpeg form, you can load these onto the web (as I do) and share these
>rescued copies with thousands of costumers worldwide at little cost to you,
>and great benefit to the costuming community at large. If each member of
>this list did this with just ONE of these self-destructing books, we would
>save 286 rare, and likely soon to be gone pieces of our history. RL Shep
>Dover can't reprint them all, but it only costs a little time and server
>space on a free site for each of you to do this. (It took me only a day
>to scan and upload the two books I have added to my site recently
>http://www.costumes.org/pages/new.htm ) If you are a student, chances are
>your costume professor will give you class credit for doing this sort of
>project, if you are a professor with students who need busywork to fill
>practicum hours at the end of a semester, this is an easy project that
>doesn't use valuable materials. Consider doing this, PLEASE. (And when
>do, send me your URL so I can link to you). Every day 1000 people come to
>site looking for this kind of information, so remember, doing this
>helps thousands upon thousands of us costumers every year.
>----Tara Maginnis, Ph.D., Costume Designer/Associate Professor
>Chair of the Theatre Department of University of Alaska Fairbanks
>Website: "The Costumer's Manifesto" at http://www.costumes.org
>Theatre Department Web Site: http://www.uaf.edu/theatre
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: