Re: [TheCostumersManifesto] Digest Number 349
>Here! Here!I am glad you addressed this "problem." I have been working with High school, College, and Community theatre for about (God! I am old!) 34 years. I began as a student in college. The students I worked with then wanted to do theatre nearly to the exclusion of all else and if we couldn't be on stage we worked back stage. I played mother parts for years and did costumes backstage wehen I wasn't on and sometimes I did both at the same time. Not literally but I would work both jobs on the same show. It was what we were taught to do. We had good directors who were very inventive and ,Yes, demanding but they encouraged us to try everything. How else are you going to know what is needed by your director, your lighting designer, your sound man, youyr set designer , and the props people.By working at different areas we learned to appreciate each other and found that the old "Golden Rule" works just fine when working with a lot of very individual, talented, passionate, and large ego people. I have found people act pretty much the way you treat them. I haven't had an altercation in about 24 years with an actor. I also agree if you act professionally at all times people will remember that and will respect your opinions because they will view you as competant. All this takes time I know, but nothing good really happens over night.Have patience! Old proverb : Time and patience turns the mulberry leaf into satin.-------Original Message-------Date: Sunday, June 02, 2002 04:11:07Subject: [TheCostumersManifesto] Digest Number 349
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1. Re: I can't be the only costumer that experiences th...
From: "thecostumersmanifesto" <Tara@...>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:33:19 -0000
From: "thecostumersmanifesto" <Tara@...>
Subject: Re: I can't be the only costumer that experiences th...
The whole false tech vs actor "rivalry" that goes on with some folks
just underlines the lack of professionalism that abounds in some
places. REAL actors appreciate their tech support and are
cooperative and grateful, REAL tech people (especially costumers who
work most directly with actors) love and support their actors, try
to make them happy, and LISTEN to their concerns. The tech vs actor
crap invariably is a big thing with HS kids who have a tendency to
form into cliques of all kinds, inept community theatre people, wet
behind the ears college freshman, and so-called professionals who
never really aquired the self confidence to be unthreatened by their
co-artists. When you meet a costumer who scorns actors and their
input, or an actor who regards tech people as personal servants, you
know you are dealing with an insecure neurotic, or a person with no
real experience at all. The only proper response is to keep your
own attitude professional despite the stupid behavior of the few.
Noticing how many new college students came in from HS with this
attitude I once titled a talk at an ACTF conference "Why Actors Hate
Costumers and Vice Versa" to try to preach to the unconverted my
philosophy that the two groups were made to be happy with each other
if they could only understand the others job and communicate
better. I keep meaning to write that lecture down and put it on my
site, but I never seem to do so. Perhaps in July when I get back to
--- In TheCostumersManifesto@y..., "neimhaille" <vcairistiona@h...>
> > > I havequit doing comunity theater because their
> > > attitude isyou are only on crew because you aren't
> > > good enough tobe on stage. <----- Wow, I understand
> > that...I understandthat very well....too well....
>I've had the exact opposite: you're just an actor
> You know what,
> what do youknow about costuming....
>refuse to look at the work I've
> And the same people point blank
> taking a break from mind numbing hand sewing net to mybodice...
> done so farthough;)
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