- Dec 31, 2005I found this description here
which mentions the word "scye" and "sey":
* It's not a term that is particularly medieval, but it gets tossed
around a lot in medieval clothing discussions. It means 'Armhole', or
that roundish place in the body of a garment that the sleeve gets set
* OED "Scye - The opening in a coat into which a sleeve is inserted.
1st listed use is 1825 JAMIESON Suppl. s.v. Sey, The sey of a gown or
shift is the opening through which the arm passes. Etymology is listed
as "A use of a Scots and Ulster dialect word (written also sey, sci,
si, sie, sy in glossaries) meaning 'the opening of a gown, etc., into
which the sleeve is inserted; the part of the dress between the armpit
and the chest' (E.D.D.); of obscure etymology.
* Armseye is listed in a description of 'Dolman' (sleeves) in the
OED, dated to 1934.
On 12/31/05, Love3angle <alyxx.iannetta@...> wrote:
> --- In TheCostumersManifesto@yahoogroups.com, "hoxierice"
> <hoxierice@y...> wrote:
> > Armscye
> > This has been a question of mine for a long time, but it just came up
> > again today. I am trying to find the history of this word. All I have
> > found is that scye is in the OED as the opening of a coat or gown into
> > which the sleeves are inserted. Anyone know any more than that? I
> > asked another group of "crafty", but not specifically costume people.
> > What about the armscye vs. armseye question. I was always taught
> > armscye, but (have found in my quick search) that armseye may be more
> > common?
> > Thanks
> I recently read a blurb on this word but I can't remember where... The
> upshot was that the common idea was that armscye was dreived from
> scythe, which was in imitation of that curve of the scythe. BUT that it
> was bunk/urban legend. The proper word was armseye and the other was a
> misspelling that has turned into common usage.
> Now, where did I read that...
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