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  • pfoster
    Now I have questions on Czech Wedding Traditions. When I was planning to marry in 1978 I lived in Houston and Grandmamma in Caldwell and married at the
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 9, 2008
      Now I have questions on Czech Wedding Traditions.  When I was planning to marry in 1978 I lived in Houston and Grandmamma in Caldwell and married at the Brethren Church in Dime Box.  Now I was allowed to pick-out my invitations and the dress, Grandmamma planned and executed the wedding.  Now, I am wondering if some of these rules were tradition or just a very stubborn Matriarch Moravian Woman.  Did the Matriarch always planned the weddings?  Was the bride suppose to stay indoors until the ceremony (it took Poppa intervening for me to even go to my "Womens" Pre-Wedding breakfast), the Women of the Church set-up the church and the reception hall before and during the early supper.  They always went to Grandmamma for instructions, no one was allowed to see me except Poppa, my matron of honor, and her.  If you need the bathroom too bad ( you would just have to wait until the wedding was over with or find a tree), and after the cermony in front of the church you thanked everyone, not at the reception.  Oh,  one more question.  Coleslaw.  We had a BBQ Supper with the trimming, except the coleslaw.  With all this planning Grandmamma insisted on making coleslaw.  Well, my job was to transport the coleslaw along with the matron of honor to the church in Dime Box.  Guess, who forgot the coleslaw.  To this day, I can remember that was one upset Moravian Matriarch not even Poppa could convince that the bowl of coleslaw could be served the next day when other family members came to visit. So, my Matron of Honor stepped in,  Her son went back to Caldwell for the coleslaw I still to this day do not know why the coleslaw was so important!  paulasmaggie
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: janetsk57
      Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:16 PM
      Subject: [TexasCzechs] Re: Czech Traditions

      Over the past 15 years we have visited frequently with some Czech
      friends from Moravia in the Czech Republic. I came to realize that I
      had not really lost my Czech traditions but that I actually just
      didn't realize which traditions were Czech until I visited with my
      friends from the Czech republic! So many "things" that we did or said
      were assumed to be "just the way we did things". It was only later
      that I realized "wow, we did that because we were Czech!".
      So, let me see if I can recall some of the many revelations that I
      have had over the years and that I then pointed out to my own
      *We open our gifts and celebrate Christmas on Christmas Eve rather
      than the more American tradition of opening presents on Christmas
      Day. This is actually the Czech tradition that has stayed with our
      family. Also, we would always have fish or shrimp (since we are near
      the gulf coast) as our main food on Christmas Eve--again, most likely
      carried on from the Czech tradition of having carp on Christmas Eve.
      Christmas Eve is the big event, meal and gathering... .
      *We continued to celebrate St. Nicholas day on December 6th with
      candy and nuts for the children after they put out a stocking-again,
      a day of observance from the old country (although I believe the
      czech people now put out a boot)
      *Recently, our guests sat at our table and remarked that the
      name "Misty" was a common name for a cat in the Czech Republic---I
      had to smile because almost all of our cats were named "misty" when I
      was growing up. I never realized it was traditional in the Czech
      *Our food! Oh my gosh--each time we visit the Czech Republic and sit
      down to a meal, our friends will say "and this is a typical Czech
      meal"...and then they proceed to serve my grandmother' s home
      cooking! Complete with the soup we always had and the pork roast and
      dumplings with gravy, and special plum dumplings etc. (My aunts
      always had plum trees--again, another tradition from the old country)
      Even though the food is fixed a little differently it is obvious that
      we have passed down our food and more than just the kolach! I would
      suggest getting some of the Czech American cookbooks and you may find
      that you are still enjoying some of your Czech traditions in your
      food and just not realizing that it is Czech!
      *Some of the words that I thought were "baby" names turned out to be
      czech names---poupek for the American "bellybutton" ...and a few
      others. It seems that I am always discovering that I have actually
      known the czech word but just didn't know it was Czech!
      *The wonderful family gatherings around the table into the evening
      where we all just sit and visit and talk for hours remind me of the
      way our friends spend their evenings in Moravia in their wine
      cellars...my husband's family and so many of my "non-czech american"
      friends just don't have these long family evening visits around the
      table as their family tradition and I realize more and more that it
      is our czech background
      *Little things---I was reading that many Czech people do not believe
      that it is particularly healthy to drink liquids with the meal but
      that it is better to drink after the meal. I had to smile because
      this was something my father had always told me and that my sister
      said she "just always knew"...He has past away so I am unable to ask
      him about this now but there are so many little things like this that
      make me smile and realize that we have our Czech tradition--- It is
      just so valuable to identify them before our generations are
      completely assimilated!
      * Our weddings have something called a Grand March in which couples
      prominade around the wedding hall with the bride and groom and
      wedding party at the front and led by an experienced couple. We are
      still trying to trace the roots of the grand march but the closest we
      have seen is that it may come from the part of Moravia near Frenstat
      and some very old peoples their in europe...
      This is what a recall off hand--I'll write more as they come to me.
      But, if you want to learn what your czech traditions are--just plan
      to visit the czech republic and get to know the people. I found that
      we have so much in common and that we share so many and unknown
      traits and expressions! !
      Janet Smaistrla King

      -- In TexasCzechs@ yahoogroups. com, Loretta Wotipka-Riely
      <lottie_pottie@ ...> wrote:
      > I have lost just about all of the Czech traditions.  Don't even
      know what they are.  My father died when I was 8 years old and the
      language and traditions died with him unfortunately.
      > Yes, please share any you may have.
      > Thank you, Loretta Wotipka Riely
      > Dallas, Texas
      > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Tiffanie Dodson <tiffaniedodson@ ...> wrote:
      > From: Tiffanie Dodson <tiffaniedodson@ ...>
      > Subject: Re: [TexasCzechs] Czech Traditions
      > To: TexasCzechs@ yahoogroups. com
      > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:57 AM
      > please everyone share the traditions that your czech family has, I
      would like to start some old traditions for my kids so they can carry
      them on.
      > --- On Sun, 9/28/08, robbie moore <rmoore5229@ yahoo. com> wrote:
      > From: robbie moore <rmoore5229@ yahoo. com>
      > Subject: Re: [TexasCzechs] Czech Traditions
      > To: TexasCzechs@ yahoogroups. com
      > Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 8:07 PM
      > YES! Please share the traditions. Many things I saw the older ones
      do, but I had no idea why.
      > If you have something that has been in your family for generations,
      please share it. Maybe we do that same thing in our family!
      > Robbie

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