RE: [TexasCzechs] Back in 1891-where is Wein, Austria
- I looked at Leo Baca's list at the Newberry Library in Chicago on Saturday. It would take many hours to look at ever list in the 10 or so books.Your village could be a number of them that came up in today Czech RepublicČernovice, Czernowitz 49°11' 16°39' 1 15.7 miles ESE of PrahaČernovice, Tschernowitz 50°27' 13°22' 54.8 miles WNW of PrahaČerňovice, Scherlomitz Černovice, Czarlowitz Černovice, ČernowitzČernovice, ČernowitzIf some change the Z to a C with v mark and the M is a EN in scriptmost likely is Žernovice 49°02' 14°02' 75.1 miles SSW of Praha of the 222 close matches by : ShtetlSeeker http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp
Simon R. "Sam" Križan SRkrizan@... 1.847.398.7812-----Original Message-----
From: TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Rachel
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I found this link that should be helpful...but I don't understand the language..so maybe you might I don't know...but it IS interesting still... http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/germany/haxczech.htmlAlso...if you can read it...this map I found may help as well...I had an unexpected eye injury last night and can't make out anything on the map period!-----Original Message-----
From: TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of miladyolga@...
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Subject: [TexasCzechs] Back in 1891-where is Wein, Austria
I recently received a photo-copy of Leo Baca's passenger ship lists. The individual arrived in New York in 1891 and the information given shows she was from Wein, Austria. The puzzling thing is that she came with relatives who have Zernovice, Bohemia listed.Is Wein close to Zernovice, Bohemia? Or could this be an error in the listing of the city she came from?
- I have documentation too, on my grandfather. It lists him as KOTROLA instead of KOTRLA. He decided he wanted it spelled with the extra "O" so he got a crone to go in with him and declare he was born KOTROLA, so the county changed it based on their declarations, which were, by the way, false.
I also have this documentation on my great-grandmother:
"Register of Deaths Williamson Co., TX"
Listing for Emil J. Vitek, lists mother as Agnes Slovik
Listing for Charles Vitek (brother to Emil), lists mother as Annie Slacek
"Obituaries of the Czech Moravian Brethern in Texas, (1905-1973) Stacy Labaj nee Mikulencak"
K-99 Obituary for Frances Kotrla, nee Vitek lists mother as Anna Slacik.
Note: Emil, Charles, Frances were siblings, and Anna was their mother. Correct spelling of her name is "Slacik".
I'm just saying that the "documentation" isn't always the final word, or the accurate information either.
miladyolga@... wrote:What a fascinating story.Thanks for sharing. It's amazing when you have documentation and people still want to believe oral stories. Some people are really set in their ways.Thanks, Debra
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