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29727Bohemian invasions of "germany"

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  • Jim Hlavac
    Feb 3, 2006
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      Bohemian Invasions of "Germany"
      There being no "Germany" until 1871, it's a tough call -- and technically, yes, Czechoslovakia never invaded Germany since both are modern constructs --
      yet -- do not confuse the past 100 years with the long history of European skulduggery -- no country or people in Europe is innocent -- some were better at the slaughter, some more organized, and some used later technological means that had they been at the disposal of earlier rulers would have been surely used way back then.  But the psychosis of violence was there among them all. To wit:
      Starting about 1000AD and ending in 1620 the independent country of Bohemia (one of the most powerful in Europe, since its about the only place Gold and Silver are mined on the continent)  made repeated invasions of the Independent German-speaking countries of Saxony, Brandenburg, Wurtemburg, Dresden, Hanover, Silesia, Prussia, and Bavaria -- as well as into Austria, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Italy, Serbia and Moravia  -- ah, them early Bohemian kings were a busy lot, plundering and burning and killing with the best of them.  So yes, German-speakers suffered at the hands of Bohemians, though a long time ago.
      Also -- Bohemia over the centuries allied itself with many a nation at war with the German princely states (all independent, dozens of them,) as a way to help, say, France, or Sweden, and keep some of those German-states in a two-front war situation. 
      When Jan of Luxembourg was King of Bohemia he took Bohemian armies on a long march accross Germany to reach the killing fields of Northern France and allied himself with the English against the French -- and when that army marched, they were hungry, and they Took what they needed, without bothering to pay, and left many a German-speaking town bereft of food.  That Bohemians were killing and/or dying as allies of the English in a war with France in France during the 1300s is surely a thing of wonderment, no?
      Also -- when the Holy Roman Empire was centered on Prague, under Charles (the bridge and university emperor) and a few later emperors, the Bohemians ruled the roost and suppressed, over-taxed, subjugated, and otherwise stripped the rights of self-rule from city states, impressed their citizens into military service, burned at the stake heretics, slighted castles (tech term for ripping it down) of discordant German princes, and did other rather nasty things throughout the loosely formed "empire."
      Also, during the Hussite wars, the Hussites and Taborites were not unwilling to slaughter a German-speaking town in the name of God and Country.
      Ancient history? Surely.  But killing, raping and pillaging in the 1100s, or the 1300s, or the 1500s, or the 1700s was just as surely killing, raping and pillaging as in the 1900s -- that the names, political circumstances, organizational skills and the technology changed with the times does not make that any less so.
      And Bohemians and Moravians were awfully good at the process for several hundred years -- and not any less willing to do it than any other European potentate. 
       Perhaps if modern Germany was founded in Pittsburg, Penn, like modern Czechoslovakia things could have been different.  Though modern Italy's founding in Staten Island New York didn't stop the new Italian nation from immediately invading Austria, France, Serbia, Slovenia and then turn it's eye towards Libya and Ethiopia.
      And definitely Hitler (and Stalin) stand(s) out as the unparralled leader in the 4,000 years of constant slaughter -- yet, no European prince or leader, and thus nation, was without blood on their hands.  Is invading and destroying a city in 1500 any less bad than invading and destroying a nation in 1939?  Hardly, the scale is unimportant -- it's the moral act. 
      Was the Bohemian practice of ghettoizing the Jews and over-burdening them with rules and regulations and taxes and confiscations and even time-to-time expulsions any less than what other European Catholic/Protestant nations did? Nope -- it was part and parcel of that long sorry history -- Hitler only "improved" on what was a 2,000 year long blood sport.  Again, scale is irrelevant, the moral act is key -- and none are innocent in that misbegotten continent of violence.
      Jim Hlavac

      livanec@... wrote:
      Let's see, how many times did Czechoslavakia invade Germany? Hmmm!!!!

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