Re: "Bizarre" Taxonomies (was Re: [TaxoCoP] Re: new Taxonomy Community of Practice motto desperately needed...)
Very good points.
In the IA world, we would call what you are describing as "Context". What is the context of use? What are the goals and drivers? What is the venacular of the primary users? etc.
From: Keipat Patkei
Sent: Feb 1, 2009 1:24 AM
Subject: "Bizarre" Taxonomies (was Re: [TaxoCoP] Re: new Taxonomy Community of Practice motto desperately needed...)
Excellent questions and comments. Take this as either overstatement or "staying on message," but I don't know if I would ever consider a taxonomy or thesaurus "bizarre" until I was absolutely certain I knew the circumstances prompting its creation/developmen t or the users for which the systems were created. I recall the sociology term, "standpoint theory," having application here.
Personally, "bizarre" has a negative ring to it, and in the the realm of controlled vocabulary work, it starts to sound, to me, like, "I've heard some "crazy" languages, seen some "odd" cultures, and read some "dumb" cultural narratives." Or maybe my personal experience and use of the word "bizarre" needs to be altered or extended? "Chaotic" seems relative to me, too.
All systems exist in relative states of communication, application, perspective, experience, and so on, with people ("imperfect" ) and semi-automated systems (likewise "imperfect") . Fibonacci, Newton, Tesla, Einstein, Turing, Gates...all "imperfect" along with a great deal of what they produced. This is why linguistics/ semantics play such an important role, if not the central role, in controlled vocabulary work.
For some situations, a "bizarre" taxonomy or thesaurus might be absolutely necessary particularly in the realms of science or discovery--with "right" or "perfection" comes "end." And here's some imperfection to end on: It's never been the same world for everyone.
Much appreciate the questions and feedback. Thanks, again.
--- On Sat, 1/31/09, Patrick Lambe <plambe@straitsknowl edge.com> wrote:
> From: Patrick Lambe <plambe@straitsknowl edge.com>
> Subject: Re: [TaxoCoP] Re: new Taxonomy Community of Practice motto desperately needed....
> To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:22 PM
> Great questions Karna - i meant discovery in a specialised
> sense of finding useful stuff that you weren't aware of
> or necessarily looking for. Sometimes this does pose
> quandaries, but this is proably because your mental model is
> being challenged, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
> And yes, chaotic taxonomies do make one's thinking
> muddled - or rather they make it hard to think and see
> Patrick Lambe
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> On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:28 PM, O'Dea wrote:
> > HI Patrick
> > I like your motto as well
> > However what if you discover what you don’t want to
> find (a quandary for you)
> > Also Patrick wouldn’t a chaotic taxonomy make your
> thinking muddled. Yes I know I am off on a tangent but I
> have seen some very bizarre taxos and thesauri in my time as
> we all have.
- Actually, that sense of FOD does have some faint taxonomy resonances!!POn Feb 3, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jay Maechtlen wrote: