1470RE: [TaxoCoP] Re: Visualization technologies
- Jul 24, 2006--- Roy Roebuck <Roy.Roebuck@...> wrote:
>... Contact steve@... for furtherAX: Thanks for the info! I did talk to them back in
> information. Pass him this email/thread if you
> like. Perhaps he has some online capability he can
> let you explore/evaluate.
April with my partial conceptual model diagram for a
project. But I kept it on hold as there are still so
many unknown variables and dependences, etc.
>AX: My experience has been limited to demos on EA
> I identified in 2000 that it was the only tool I
> could find that was flexible enough to support the
> modeling I need. Iâve found a few other tools
> that seem close, but Iâve not proven it yet.
modeling tools such as Agilense, Telelogic, iRise,
etc. that handle EA frameworks such as Zachman, FEA,
DoDAF, TOGAF, etc., for BPM, SOA, etc. All of these
tools and frame works can only handle hard facts or
evidences at M3/M2/M1/M0 layers.
What's missing is the top layer of an EA info ecology,
e.g. people's background, culture, social networks,
working habit, organization policies, regulatory and
other constraints, etc. which will govern your EA
implementation strategies and your potential success
and risk ratios.
> Agilense is not perfect, requires a âtechieâAX: Excellent in terms of EA info architecture.
> orientation to administer the repository and gain
> the full power of its feature set, and needs
> supplemental capabilities, built around what I call
> my âhub and spokeâ integration model. In this
> hub and spoke, my general/integrating ontology
> provides the âaxleâ, a repository like Agilense
> serves as the âhubâ, various data/process
> integration technologies such as ESB serve as
> interfacing âhub-bandsâ, and then a variety of
> tools serve as âspokesâ that support different
> functions of the enterprise or support different
> phases of the generalized spiral life cycle
> management technique we apply.
However, my challenge is not "techie" orientation.
How to obtain mission critical data from
upper/mid-level functional managers so that incoming
data can get into the 'axle' repository in a rubust
manner has proved to be more difficult than anything
>AX: Thanks for the info about your approach. Do you
> Our approach enables rapid/adaptive changes in data,
> metadata, and meta-metadata, such as the composition
> of our seven reference catalogs (taxonomies), the
> relations between the catalog entries, and the
> attributes that describe these entries and
> relations. The key to increasing the stability of
> this environment is to provide a mechanism for
> community/domain consensus building, consensus
> decisions, and then subsequent variance
> identification and reporting to the variant author
> and broader community.
have systems in place to promote mechanism for
community/domain consensus building?
>AX: I understand.
> As to the how, practices, etc., thatâs the
> business Iâm in, and I donât normally disclose
> too many of its details outside of business talks
> and engagements.
>AX: Thanks for the link. Keep in touch!
> You can review my EA site at
> http://www.one-world-is.com/beam, and if youâd
> like internal support with your EA, taxonomies, or
> ontologies using my approach, contract my services
> through my current employer, CommIT.
> CommIT Enterprises, Inc.
> Enterprise Architecture for Enterprise Management,
> Security, and Knowledge
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> From: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Amanda
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [TaxoCoP] Re: Visualization
> Thanks, Roy, for showing me your way. What you did
> amazing and seems very flexible in terms of
> anticipating changes and growth of your EA. What is
> the one tool that you are referring to for
> layer modeling - not 'The Brain'? How do you like
> 'Agile WebModeler'? I could not get a trial version
> from them.
> Replication and synchronization among M1/M0 is quite
> challenging. What tools do you use? Do you have
> samples or client websites that I can take a look?
> In addition to define object, class, instance, their
> associations and methods in open standards such as
> CWM, MOF, UML, LC classification scheme, etc., keep
> layer updated is also quite time consuming and labor
> intensive. I am wondering if you have any
> What systems do you use to setup the repository -
> DB, project server, CMS, version control, search
> services, etc. for the artifacts?
> Luckily, you have the freedom to define your own
> thesaurus with the consensus of end users. As long
> it is working within your enterprise, it is fine.
> often do you need to restructure everything due to
> change of location, organization, resources, etc.?
> you have systems to decentralize the workflow for
> maintaining the thesaurus?
> As far I am concerned, we need top level ontology to
> be agreed upon by standard organization such as W2C,
> OMG, OASIS, LC, etc.
> For us, librarians, we have to reflect the truth of
> being or of the thing. Someone recommended UDC
> But most of our resources are already in LC
> classification and LC subject headings. Why do we
> need to reinvent the wheel?
> In short, I am still very confused. Thanks a million
> for any help!
> Amanda Xu
> --- Roy Roebuck <Roy.Roebuck@...
> <mailto:Roy.Roebuck%40commitent.com> > wrote:
> > Amanda: Thanks for the feedback.
> > The following text is probably a bit overwhelming
> > for most, and even for me sometimes, so I also
> > diagrams (which IÃ¢â¬â¢m also told are often
> > overwhelming) to aid the discussion if needed.
> > Please note that I typically use one tool to do
> > M3/M2/M1/M0 modeling and model
> > aggregation/integration/unification across those
> > layers.
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