## America's Bloodiest Day

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• In a message dated 9/10/02 10:40:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... Good point - what are they counting as bloody? I always thought it was casualties, not just
Message 1 of 16 , Sep 10 7:59 PM
In a message dated 9/10/02 10:40:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tlivesey@... writes:

> I don't know exactly what counts as 'bloody', but on
> Sept. 8, 1900 (Sept. is not a good month for Americans),
> some 5000 people are to have perished in a Hurricane
> that struck Galveston island. Nature is apparently
>

Good point - what are they counting as bloody? I always thought it was
casualties, not just deaths. That's why Antietam was at the top of the list.
(I thought.)

Paula

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• ... 114 divided by 27 = 4.22 114 divided by (27+17) = 2.59 ... 87 divided by 18 = 4.83 87 divided by 24 = 3.62 (not sure exactly how many wounded died within
Message 2 of 16 , Sep 10 8:41 PM
Curt Johnson wrote:

> In the Civil War, the ratio of WIA to KIA was 4.55. The
> ratio of surviving wounded to battle deaths and died of wounds was 2.38.
> These relationships have been fairly consistent since about 1700.
>
> At Fox's Gap, the Seventeenth Michigan casualties were 27 killed and 114 wounded.
> Of the wounded, 17 died before the middle of December 1862.

114 divided by 27 = 4.22
114 divided by (27+17) = 2.59

> At Antietam, the regiment lost 18 killed and 87 wounded. At least 6 of the
> wounded died within a few months of the battle.

87 divided by 18 = 4.83
87 divided by 24 = 3.62 (not sure exactly how many wounded died within three months)

Interesting ratios...I'll will look into the Dupuy work.

I did a study of Michigan units of the "died of disease" versus "killed and died of wounds ". The ratio ranged from 156:1 to 1:1. The average for Michigan
troops was 2.4:1 Some other writers have quoted a there or four to one ratio. It depends on the particular regiments and their exposure to combat, unit
history, and the statistical sample size.

Bill Christen
• We will be in Sharpsburg tomorrow afternoon. After some time on the battlefield we normally stop at the Antietam Gallery to see JIm Kehoe. We also will make
Message 3 of 16 , Sep 11 4:19 AM
We will be in Sharpsburg tomorrow afternoon. After some time on the
battlefield we normally stop at the Antietam Gallery to see JIm Kehoe.
We also will make our annual visit to Harpers Ferry and spend most
of Saturday at the Heritage Festival. Our tickets for the reenactment
are for Sunday only. We'll look for the your IB t-shirt on Saturday.

Bud

At 10:47 AM 9/10/02 -0400, Tom wrote:
>In a message dated 09/10/2002 7:44:46 AM EST, gwilk@... writes:
><< Terry Bell and I will, as usual, be in the Sharpsburg area for the
>weekend. Maybe we will run across one another again. >>
>
>Indeed, I hope our paths cross again. I am attending the re-enactment events
>on Friday (crowds shouldn't be as horrendous as weekend) and then joining
>Rangers for the hikes on Saturday (with a quick trip into the Festival in
>between hikes).
>
>I'll likely be wearing an Irish Brigade t-shirt!
>
>Tom Shay
• Bud, Sunday will be the AP Hill assault reenactment... I should be around my camp area earlier that day.. I will be part of Gen. Maupin s Confederate Command
Message 4 of 16 , Sep 11 6:06 AM
Bud,

Sunday will be the AP Hill assault reenactment... I should be
around my camp area earlier that day.. I will be part of Gen.
Maupin's Confederate Command HQ area... Stop by if you have time.

Gerry Mayers
Pvt., CS Signals,
Longstreet's Corps

A Proud American by Birth, Southern by Choice!

"I know of no fitter resting-place for a soldier than the field
on which he has nobly laid down his life." --General Robert
Edward Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bud Wilkinson" <gwilk@...>
To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] America's Bloodiest Day

> We will be in Sharpsburg tomorrow afternoon. After some time
on the
> battlefield we normally stop at the Antietam Gallery to see JIm
Kehoe.
> We also will make our annual visit to Harpers Ferry and spend
most
> of Saturday at the Heritage Festival. Our tickets for the
reenactment
> are for Sunday only. We'll look for the your IB t-shirt on
Saturday.
>
> Bud
>
• Gerry, Will do...... what is the scheduled time for the AP Hill event? We want to be sure to get to the site on Rench Rd. early!! I remember the traffic in
Message 5 of 16 , Sep 11 7:15 AM
Gerry,
Will do...... what is the scheduled time for the AP Hill event?
We want to be sure to get to the site on Rench Rd. early!!
I remember the traffic in '97, although it was much easier
getting in than getting out. :>)

Bud

At 09:06 AM 9/11/02 -0400, Gerrywrote:
>Bud,
>
>Sunday will be the AP Hill assault reenactment... I should be
>around my camp area earlier that day.. I will be part of Gen.
>Maupin's Confederate Command HQ area... Stop by if you have time.
>
>Gerry Mayers
>Pvt., CS Signals,
>Longstreet's Corps
• In a message dated 09/11/2002 9:17:16 AM EST, gwilk@ohio.net writes: The A.P. Hill s Attack scenario
Message 6 of 16 , Sep 11 7:34 AM
In a message dated 09/11/2002 9:17:16 AM EST, gwilk@... writes:
<< what is the scheduled time for the AP Hill event? >>

The A.P. Hill's Attack scenario is at 2 PM.

A full schedule is at:
http://www.antietamreenactment.org/events.htm

Tom Shay
• Thanks Tom.........
Message 7 of 16 , Sep 11 8:04 AM
Thanks Tom.........

At 10:34 AM 9/11/02 -0400, Tom wrote:
>In a message dated 09/11/2002 9:17:16 AM EST, gwilk@... writes:
><< what is the scheduled time for the AP Hill event? >>
>
>The A.P. Hill's Attack scenario is at 2 PM.
>
>A full schedule is at:
>http://www.antietamreenactment.org/events.htm
>
>
>Tom Shay
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