Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: 1936 Photo - Fox's Gap
I presume you mean the Reno Monument marks the northwest corner Wise's field?
Do you have copies of these images you looked at in the NA? The OR
version is so reduced there is no detail. I'm going to guess that
1 of the maps you refer to is the Witzleben & von Kamecke Map of
South Mountain, which is reproduced in McElfresh's "Maps and
Mapmakers" book, p101. It also is so reduced as to be near useless.
If we had a nice copy of 1 of these maps, we could superimpose it
on the 1936 photo and modern maps.
I have taken the 1936 photo and drawn a field of the approx. dimensions
that you specify:80x190 yards. Does that line up with your expectations?
Bill and Glenna Jo Christen wrote:
> TR Livesey wrote:
> > This is a pretty cool photo. I was just kind of messing around and
> > I geo-referenced it (brought it into an earth-based coordinate
> > system) and drew a few images with it.
> I believe that Wise's Field was smaller than the cleared field in 1936. According
> to the maps I studied at the National archives the field was about 75-80 yards by
> 180-200 yards. The Northeast corner of the field would be very close to the
> northeast corner of the Reno Monument...the tiny square figure in the image. This
> is wear the old mountain road came out in 1862. Some wooden fence lines may be in
> 1862 locations, but there is a good chance they were moved as the wood rotted and
> the field increased. I do have a survey showing some stone fences that probably
> did not move. These would be near the small rectangular field at the bottom of
> the large wooded area. The location of the 1862 cornfield on the south side of
> the Old Sharpsburg Road is a key location that we need to fix in location.
> The maps I looked at were two versions of what became a plate in the OR atlas.
> Bill Christen
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- TR Livesey wrote:
> I presume you mean the Reno Monument marks the northwest corner Wise's field?Todd,
Yes, sorry for the confusion...up too late reading e-mails last night.
> Do you have copies of these images you looked at in the NA?I have large-size photocopies of the maps which had annotations that I highlighted
years ago. I will scan them, but it may have to wait until I get back from Antietam
(leaving wednesday morning).
> I'm going to guess that 1 of the maps you refer to is the Witzleben & von Kamecke MapI do not have that book.
> South Mountain, which is reproduced in McElfresh's "Maps and Mapmakers" book, p101.
> If we had a nice copy of 1 of these maps, we could superimpose itIt's curious in that both maps appear to have been made at the same time, but there are
> on the 1936 photo and modern maps.
different annotations on each.
> I have taken the 1936 photo and drawn a field of the approx. dimensionsYes, but, we need to check the details...perhaps with Fred Wilder Cross' circa early
> that you specify:80x190 yards. Does that line up with your expectations?
1920s photographs of the field would help. I have a set of them. I will also send you a
copy of the more modern survey when I get back.