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Re: [TalkAntietam] Mansfield's route

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  • Ron Church
    Gerry, I m not sure just how much information Hooker had conveyed to Mansfield, perhaps some of the others can shed more light on this. But I do have some
    Message 1 of 11 , Jul 14, 2002
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      Gerry,

      I'm not sure just how much information Hooker had conveyed to Mansfield,
      perhaps some of the others can shed more light on this. But I do have some
      information regarding timing that might be of interest; BG Alpheus Williams
      (now commanding XII Corps) states in his report "While the deployment was
      going on, and before the leading regiments were fully engaged, it was
      reported to me that the veteran and distinguished commander of the corps was
      mortally wounded. I at once reported to Major-General Hooker on the field,
      took from him such direction as the pressing exigencies would permit, and
      hastened to make a disposition of the corps to meet them".

      Williams doesn't mention anything about Hooker having been wounded. From the
      NPS maps, Mansfield reached the "deployment" area at about 8:00 so
      Mansfield's wounding may have happened between 8:00 and 8:30.

      Hooker in his report states, "While my wound was being examined by the
      surgeon, Sumner's corps appeared on the field on my immediate right, and I
      have an indistinct recollection of having seen Sedgwick's division pass to
      the front." Since Sumner entered the West Woods at about 9:00 it would be
      possible that the two commanders were wounded within the same half hour.

      Given the "exigencies" Williams referred to, unless Hooker and Mansfield met
      or communicated earlier, it doesn't look like there was much time for
      coordination at the corps level once the battle started.

      Ron Church
      Manchester MD


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "NJ Rebel" <gerry1952@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Mansfield's route


      > Todd, Paula, Ron and all,
      >
      > Correct me if I am mistaken, but I seem to recall reading at one
      > point or another that by the time Mansfield actually had his XII
      > Corps on the field Joe Hooker had already been wounded and was,
      > unfortunately, out of the tactical situation and thereby unable
      > to inform Mansfield of the actual situation.
      >
      > Your humble servant,
      > Gerry Mayers
      > Pvt., CS Signals,
      > Longstreet's Corps
    • NJ Rebel
      Ron: IIRC, once Hooker s units reached the area of The Cornfield, the orchestrated plan that Mac wanted Hooker to perform on the left flank of the Confedere
      Message 2 of 11 , Jul 14, 2002
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        Ron:

        IIRC, once Hooker's units reached the area of The Cornfield, the
        orchestrated "plan" that Mac wanted Hooker to perform on the left
        flank of the Confedere line went to pieces. The battle started to
        take on a life of its own.......

        Your humble servant,
        Gerry Mayers
        Pvt., CS Signals,
        Longstreet's Corps

        A Proud American by Birth, Southern by Choice!

        "I know of no fitter resting-place for a soldier than the field
        on which he has nobly laid down his life." --General Robert
        Edward Lee

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Ron Church" <rchurch@...>
        To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:27 PM
        Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Mansfield's route


        > Gerry,
        >
        > I'm not sure just how much information Hooker had conveyed to
        Mansfield,
        > perhaps some of the others can shed more light on this. But I
        do have some
        > information regarding timing that might be of interest; BG
        Alpheus Williams
        > (now commanding XII Corps) states in his report "While the
        deployment was
        > going on, and before the leading regiments were fully engaged,
        it was
        > reported to me that the veteran and distinguished commander of
        the corps was
        > mortally wounded. I at once reported to Major-General Hooker
        on the field,
        > took from him such direction as the pressing exigencies would
        permit, and
        > hastened to make a disposition of the corps to meet them".
        >
        > Williams doesn't mention anything about Hooker having been
        wounded. From the
        > NPS maps, Mansfield reached the "deployment" area at about 8:00
        so
        > Mansfield's wounding may have happened between 8:00 and 8:30.
        >
        > Hooker in his report states, "While my wound was being examined
        by the
        > surgeon, Sumner's corps appeared on the field on my immediate
        right, and I
        > have an indistinct recollection of having seen Sedgwick's
        division pass to
        > the front." Since Sumner entered the West Woods at about 9:00
        it would be
        > possible that the two commanders were wounded within the same
        half hour.
        >
        > Given the "exigencies" Williams referred to, unless Hooker and
        Mansfield met
        > or communicated earlier, it doesn't look like there was much
        time for
        > coordination at the corps level once the battle started.
        >
        > Ron Church
        > Manchester MD
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "NJ Rebel" <gerry1952@...>
        > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:06 PM
        > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Mansfield's route
        >
        >
        > > Todd, Paula, Ron and all,
        > >
        > > Correct me if I am mistaken, but I seem to recall reading at
        one
        > > point or another that by the time Mansfield actually had his
        XII
        > > Corps on the field Joe Hooker had already been wounded and
        was,
        > > unfortunately, out of the tactical situation and thereby
        unable
        > > to inform Mansfield of the actual situation.
        > >
        > > Your humble servant,
        > > Gerry Mayers
        > > Pvt., CS Signals,
        > > Longstreet's Corps
        >
        >
        >
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