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Re: Timeline for SO191 with reference to "Giants in the Cornfield"

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  • littlegreenmen.geo
    Ack, it appears to all be speculation based upon a very inconsistent account Bloss gave in 1892 (see
    Message 1 of 4 , Jan 27, 2013
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      Ack, it appears to all be speculation based upon a very inconsistent account Bloss gave in 1892 (see http://archive.org/stream/wartalksinkansa00kansgoog#page/n92/mode/2up ).

      It's so contradictory to other known facts that I guess the account can safely be rejected as extremely unreliable.

      Bryn

      --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" wrote:
      >
      > Dear Bryn,
      >
      > Marion V. Armstrong Jr covers the discovery of SO191 pretty well in
      > his book, "Unfurl Those Colors! -- McClellan, Sumner and the Second
      > Army Corps in the Maryland Campaign." You might want to look at that
      > source.
      >
      > Also, the late Dr Joseph Harsh covers SO191 from the CS side in his
      > "Taken at the Flood", particularly as to when Lee might have become
      > aware of its discovery by the Federals.
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
      >
      > http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/
      >
      >
      >
      > "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
      > one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
      > impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
      > circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
      > must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of littlegreenmen.geo
      > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:48 PM
      > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Timeline for SO191 with reference to "Giants
      > in the Cornfield"
      >
      >
      >
      > Dear all,
      >
      > I'm going some research into the timings of the discovery and
      > transmission of SO191 to McClellan's HQ. Most data seems to agree
      > (discovered after 12pm, received by McClellan between 2 and 3 pm), but
      > there is one major contradictary datapoint - Jones' Giants in the
      > Cornfield.
      >
      > I theorise from an online abstraction of his timeline that he fixed
      > the delivery to McClellan at 12pm (based upon Sears' now overturned
      > argument) and worked backwards. If that's true then it would fit the
      > other datapoints and it's just "mis-locked".
      >
      > I don't have the work and was wondering if anyone could disclose his
      > methodology?
      >
      > Yours,
      > Bryn
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
    • Larry Freiheit
      You may wish to also check Civil War Times magazine December 2012 pg. 8 which has statements on this issue from Mr. Sears and Mr. D Aoust. Larry
      Message 2 of 4 , Jan 28, 2013
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        You may wish to also check "Civil War Times" magazine December 2012 pg. 8 which has statements on this issue from Mr. Sears and Mr. D'Aoust.
        Larry


        ________________________________
        From: littlegreenmen.geo <littlegreenmen.geo@...>
        To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:48 AM
        Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Timeline for SO191 with reference to "Giants in the Cornfield"


         

        Ack, it appears to all be speculation based upon a very inconsistent account Bloss gave in 1892 (see http://archive.org/stream/wartalksinkansa00kansgoog#page/n92/mode/2up ).

        It's so contradictory to other known facts that I guess the account can safely be rejected as extremely unreliable.

        Bryn

        --- In mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" wrote:
        >
        > Dear Bryn,
        >
        > Marion V. Armstrong Jr covers the discovery of SO191 pretty well in
        > his book, "Unfurl Those Colors! -- McClellan, Sumner and the Second
        > Army Corps in the Maryland Campaign." You might want to look at that
        > source.
        >
        > Also, the late Dr Joseph Harsh covers SO191 from the CS side in his
        > "Taken at the Flood", particularly as to when Lee might have become
        > aware of its discovery by the Federals.
        >
        > Yr. Obt. Svt.
        > G E "Gerry" Mayers
        >
        > https://www.amazon.com/author/gerardemayers
        >
        > http://nonebutheroes.blogspot.com/
        >
        >
        >
        > "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act exactly contrary, at
        > one period, to that which it does at another, and the motive which
        > impels them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same. The
        > circumstances which govern their actions change; and their conduct
        > must conform to the new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee
        >
        >
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
        > [mailto:mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of littlegreenmen.geo
        > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:48 PM
        > To: mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Timeline for SO191 with reference to "Giants
        > in the Cornfield"
        >
        >
        >
        > Dear all,
        >
        > I'm going some research into the timings of the discovery and
        > transmission of SO191 to McClellan's HQ. Most data seems to agree
        > (discovered after 12pm, received by McClellan between 2 and 3 pm), but
        > there is one major contradictary datapoint - Jones' Giants in the
        > Cornfield.
        >
        > I theorise from an online abstraction of his timeline that he fixed
        > the delivery to McClellan at 12pm (based upon Sears' now overturned
        > argument) and worked backwards. If that's true then it would fit the
        > other datapoints and it's just "mis-locked".
        >
        > I don't have the work and was wondering if anyone could disclose his
        > methodology?
        >
        > Yours,
        > Bryn
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >




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