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  • Ian Workman
    If you are in the area just give me shout. I d be happy to show you around that area. There was a large camp up on the bluffs following the Gettysburg Campaign
    Message 1 of 11 , Sep 27, 2012
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      If you are in the area just give me shout. I'd be happy to show you around
      that area. There was a large camp up on the bluffs following the Gettysburg
      Campaign as well.

      Ian

      On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:25 AM, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:

      > **
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      >
      > Ian,
      >
      > I live in NJ about four hours away.
      >
      >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ian Workman
      > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:11 AM
      > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
      > >
      > >
      > > I meant Gerry. Are you local? There was a very large
      > > Texas camp in the
      > > vicinity of the caves that was found many years ago.
      > >
      > > Ian
      > >
      > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, G E Mayers
      > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > **
      >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Ian;
      > > >
      > > > This is Gerry, not Steve.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
      > > Ian Workman
      > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:24 PM
      > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Steve,
      > > > >
      > > > > You can reach it on foot but the best way is by bike.
      > > > > I think the quickest
      > > > > way to get to it is from Snyder's landing. If you ever
      > > > > want to see it, I'd
      > > > > be happy to bike along.
      > > > >
      > > > > The ride isn't that bad at all.
      > > > >
      > > > > Ian
      > > > >
      > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, G E Mayers
      > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > **
      > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Ian;
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Thanks! Can the cave be reached on foot or ?
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
      > > > > Ian Workman
      > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:16 AM
      > > > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Killiansburg Cave has what appears to have two
      > > > > > > openings. The one on the
      > > > > > > right is the one that you would want to go into. It is
      > > > > > > much smaller than it
      > > > > > > used to be. Parts of it collapsed and you can no
      > > > > > > longer scale the chimney
      > > > > > > to the upper window. It is also full of dirt so the
      > > > > > > entrance is much
      > > > > > > smaller. There is a larger overhang towards
      > > > > > > Shepherdstown that is thought
      > > > > > > to have been used as well. All of these pieces are on
      > > > > > > NPS land. You can see
      > > > > > > the markers punched into the tops of the cliffs above
      > > > > > > on both of them.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM, G E Mayers
      > > > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > **
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Thanks, Steve!
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > It is also possible the cave was a little bit larger
      > > > > > > 150 years ago...
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I will pass the information along to my friend.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Gerry
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
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      > > > > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On
      > > > > > > > Behalf Of cowie_steve
      > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:16 PM
      > > > > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Gerry,
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I visited Killiansburg Cave a couple years ago and
      > > > > > > it was in good
      > > > > > > > condition, albeit much smaller than Schell's
      > > > > > > rendition. It's located off
      > > > > > > > the C & O towpath a couple miles south of the
      > > > > > > parking area at the Snyder's
      > > > > > > > Landing Road boat launch. I failed to log the exact
      > > > > > > milepost but it was
      > > > > > > > somewhere between 75.3-75.7. After walking a mile or
      > > > > > > so from the parking
      > > > > > > > area you'll first pass the smaller Sharpsburg
      > > > > > > Landing Cave, which is
      > > > > > > > commonly mistaken for Killiansburg Cave. Continue
      > > > > > > for roughly another mile
      > > > > > > > and the much larger Killiansburg Cave will be on
      > > > > > > your left, about 20 yards
      > > > > > > > above the towpath. Depending on the time of year it
      > > > > > > can be hard to see;
      > > > > > > > it's also a steep and slippery approach so good
      > > > > > > footwear is advised. I've
      > > > > > > > heard mixed rumors that it's located on private
      > > > > > > property, so your friend
      > > > > > > > might want to look into this before climbing up
      > > > > to the cave.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Steve
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers"
      > > > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Gang,
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > The artist and correspondent H F Schell did a
      > > > > > > sketch of Killing's Cave
      > > > > > > > around the time of the battle.When it appeared in
      > > > > > > the papers, the sketch
      > > > > > > > was titled "Killing's Cave, on the Banks of the
      > > > > > > Potomac, Near Sharpsburg,
      > > > > > > > MD, Used as a Place of Safety During the Battle
      > > > > of Antietam."
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > A friend of mine was asking me where the cave was,
      > > > > > > if it can be visited
      > > > > > > > today and what condition the cave is in.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
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      > > > > > > > > "True patriotism sometimes requires of men to act
      > > > > > > exactly contrary, at
      > > > > > > > one period, to that which it does at another, and
      > > > > > > the motive which impels
      > > > > > > > them--the desire to do right--is precisely the same.
      > > > > > > The circumstances
      > > > > > > > which govern their actions change; and their conduct
      > > > > > > must conform to the
      > > > > > > > new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee
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    • G E Mayers
      Ian, That is good to know but I can not say when or if I will be in the area of Sharpsburg any time soon. Gerry
      Message 2 of 11 , Sep 29, 2012
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        Ian,

        That is good to know but I can not say when or if I will be in the area of Sharpsburg any time soon.

        Gerry

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ian Workman
        > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:22 PM
        > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
        >
        >
        > If you are in the area just give me shout. I'd be
        > happy to show you around
        > that area. There was a large camp up on the bluffs
        > following the Gettysburg
        > Campaign as well.
        >
        > Ian
        >
        > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:25 AM, G E Mayers
        > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
        >
        > > **
        > >
        > >
        > > Ian,
        > >
        > > I live in NJ about four hours away.
        > >
        > >
        > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
        > Ian Workman
        > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:11 AM
        > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > I meant Gerry. Are you local? There was a very large
        > > > Texas camp in the
        > > > vicinity of the caves that was found many years ago.
        > > >
        > > > Ian
        > > >
        > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, G E Mayers
        > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > **
        > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Ian;
        > > > >
        > > > > This is Gerry, not Steve.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
        > > > Ian Workman
        > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:24 PM
        > > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Steve,
        > > > > >
        > > > > > You can reach it on foot but the best way is by bike.
        > > > > > I think the quickest
        > > > > > way to get to it is from Snyder's landing. If you ever
        > > > > > want to see it, I'd
        > > > > > be happy to bike along.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > The ride isn't that bad at all.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Ian
        > > > > >
        > > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, G E Mayers
        > > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > > **
        > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Ian;
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Thanks! Can the cave be reached on foot or ?
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
        > > > > > Ian Workman
        > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:16 AM
        > > > > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Killiansburg Cave has what appears to have two
        > > > > > > > openings. The one on the
        > > > > > > > right is the one that you would want to go
        > into. It is
        > > > > > > > much smaller than it
        > > > > > > > used to be. Parts of it collapsed and you can no
        > > > > > > > longer scale the chimney
        > > > > > > > to the upper window. It is also full of dirt so the
        > > > > > > > entrance is much
        > > > > > > > smaller. There is a larger overhang towards
        > > > > > > > Shepherdstown that is thought
        > > > > > > > to have been used as well. All of these
        > pieces are on
        > > > > > > > NPS land. You can see
        > > > > > > > the markers punched into the tops of the
        > cliffs above
        > > > > > > > on both of them.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM, G E Mayers
        > > > > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > **
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Thanks, Steve!
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > It is also possible the cave was a
        > little bit larger
        > > > > > > > 150 years ago...
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > I will pass the information along to my friend.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Gerry
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > > > > > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]On
        > > > > > > > > Behalf Of cowie_steve
        > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:16 PM
        > > > > > > > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > > > > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Killing's Cave
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Gerry,
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > I visited Killiansburg Cave a couple
        > years ago and
        > > > > > > > it was in good
        > > > > > > > > condition, albeit much smaller than Schell's
        > > > > > > > rendition. It's located off
        > > > > > > > > the C & O towpath a couple miles south of the
        > > > > > > > parking area at the Snyder's
        > > > > > > > > Landing Road boat launch. I failed to
        > log the exact
        > > > > > > > milepost but it was
        > > > > > > > > somewhere between 75.3-75.7. After
        > walking a mile or
        > > > > > > > so from the parking
        > > > > > > > > area you'll first pass the smaller Sharpsburg
        > > > > > > > Landing Cave, which is
        > > > > > > > > commonly mistaken for Killiansburg Cave. Continue
        > > > > > > > for roughly another mile
        > > > > > > > > and the much larger Killiansburg Cave will be on
        > > > > > > > your left, about 20 yards
        > > > > > > > > above the towpath. Depending on the time
        > of year it
        > > > > > > > can be hard to see;
        > > > > > > > > it's also a steep and slippery approach so good
        > > > > > > > footwear is advised. I've
        > > > > > > > > heard mixed rumors that it's located on private
        > > > > > > > property, so your friend
        > > > > > > > > might want to look into this before climbing up
        > > > > > to the cave.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Steve
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers"
        > > > > > > > <gerry1952@...> wrote:
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > Gang,
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > The artist and correspondent H F Schell did a
        > > > > > > > sketch of Killing's Cave
        > > > > > > > > around the time of the battle.When it appeared in
        > > > > > > > the papers, the sketch
        > > > > > > > > was titled "Killing's Cave, on the Banks of the
        > > > > > > > Potomac, Near Sharpsburg,
        > > > > > > > > MD, Used as a Place of Safety During the Battle
        > > > > > of Antietam."
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > A friend of mine was asking me where
        > the cave was,
        > > > > > > > if it can be visited
        > > > > > > > > today and what condition the cave is in.
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > If anyone can help, it would be much
        > appreciated.
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
        > > > > > > > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > "True patriotism sometimes requires of
        > men to act
        > > > > > > > exactly contrary, at
        > > > > > > > > one period, to that which it does at another, and
        > > > > > > > the motive which impels
        > > > > > > > > them--the desire to do right--is
        > precisely the same.
        > > > > > > > The circumstances
        > > > > > > > > which govern their actions change; and
        > their conduct
        > > > > > > > must conform to the
        > > > > > > > > new order of things." -- Robert E. Lee
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