Re: [TalkAntietam] Congratulations, Tom!
- Dear Jake,
As someone who knows Tom Clemens and is familiar with his
doctoral thesis (which is probably the basis for his book, that
is, Volume 1), I can tell you that Tom spent months during his
doctoral thesis working up the annotations for names, etc that
appear in the Carman MS.
Interesting points about the OOB that is in Carman as to how it
originated! However, Harsh makes some intriguing comments in his
research companion to Taken at the Flood book... I speak of
Sounding the Shallows here... that Carman somewhere must have
included strength numbers for each of the units involved in the
campaign or battle.
From my own research into the Sunken Road and from reading
Carman, I have discovered that most of the map depictions of the
position of the Second NC in essays or treatments of the Sunken
Road fight are incorrect. According to Carman, the two right-most
companies of the Second fronted directly into the Roulette Lane.
This would mean the majority of the regiment thereby went to the
west, up toward the bend in the Sunken Road where the ground
level drops sharply.
Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "joseph_pierro" <joseph_pierro@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Congratulations, Tom!
I just want to take the belated opportunity to congratulate Tom
Clemens. I learned only yesterday that the first volume of HIS
edition of the Carman manuscript is due out in the summer, and I
look forward to reading it.
I know Tom has spent quite a number of years working with this
material, and no one knows better than I what a Herculean task it
can be to come to terms with the MOUNTAIN of paper involved --
not simply Carman's gargantuan manuscript, but also the trunkfuls
of supporting documents.
As I said in the introduction to my edition of Carman some years
ago, entire books could be written on the basis of critical
examinations of everything Carman had to say (or didn't say, or
said incorrectly). That was a larger task than I cared to engage
in in my work. (I had the more modest goal of simply making
Carman's original work more accessible to scholars an enthusiasts
It appears that Tom is taking that next step forward, and I wish
him the best in completing it.
- Oh, if you change the FORMAT, it could be done (in theory). I was merely speaking about the impossibility of ever seeing the Antietam Atlas ever reprinted in its original form. (CD-ROM is great, but unless you have a color printer that'll take a sheet of paper three feet by four feet. . . . )
For those who've never seen the Antietam Atlas (and very few were produced), each plate is about the size of a small coffee table. If you've ever seen a plate from the ORIGINAL OR Atlas (not the one currently sold in bookstores; those have been reduced dramatically in size), it's almost identical. And in terms of page count, the OR Atlas is probably 20x the size of the Antietam Atlas. (A book has to be of a certain length to make the eocnomics of publishing work.)
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
> Dear Jake;
> The trick of course would be what format would work best and
> whether a CD could also be part of the package to sweeten the
> deal. (I have worked in the publishing field also, so am aware of
> some of the technical issues involved.)
> Yr. Obt. Svt.
> G E "Gerry" Mayers
> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
> on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
> Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
> the Almighty God. --Anonymous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joseph_pierro" <joseph_pierro@...>
> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:47 PM
> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Congratulations, Tom!
> <snip>If it ever were to be attempted, the only way I think it
> could possibly be done would be to reprint the maps as single
> sheets (as opposed to being bound in a book).