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  • G E Mayers
    Dear Michael, Thank you for that post; it was very helpful. Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road? Yr. Obt. Svt. G E Gerry Mayers To
    Message 1 of 18 , Jun 23, 2009
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      Dear Michael,

      Thank you for that post; it was very helpful.

      Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road?

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
      the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <mchardy@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:23 AM
      Subject: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken Road
      fight


      Larry and Gerry – there was a second Confederate line for a brief
      amount of time behind the Sunken Road. This line was composed of
      Pryor’s brigade, under the command Col. John C. Hately of the 5th
      Florida. The brigade advanced past the Piper orchard and the
      Federals, not being able to hit much in the lane, turned their
      fire (infantry and artillery) upon them. At least one point the
      brigade stopped in the cornfield, probably leading some to write
      of a second line. Some members of Pryor’s brigade stopped behind
      the sunken road, some jumped into the road and intermingled with
      the Confederate troops there, and some pushed ahead past the
      road, only to be beaten back. Featherston’s brigade came in next.
      Soon thereafter, the Confederate line collapsed. The loses of one
      of Pryor’s regiments, the 8th Florida, is estimated at
      fifty-seven percent.

      Your “Colonel Coppens” is Lt. Col. Georges Augustus Gaston de
      Coppens, who just that morning had turned over the command of his
      battalion of Louisiana Zouaves to command the Floridians.

      Regards,
      Michael C. Hardy
      www.michaelchardy.com

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    • Michael Peters
      Gerry,   Believe that Coppens was killed along the Hagerstown Pike.   Mike Peters ... From: G E Mayers Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re
      Message 2 of 18 , Jul 17 9:20 PM
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        Gerry,
         
        Believe that Coppens was killed along the Hagerstown Pike.
         
        Mike Peters

        --- On Tue, 6/23/09, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:


        From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
        Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken Road fight
        To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:55 AM


        Dear Michael,

        Thank you for that post; it was very helpful.

        Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road?

        Yr. Obt. Svt.
        G E "Gerry" Mayers






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      • G E Mayers
        Thanks! Yr. Obt. Svt. G E Gerry Mayers To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on one s mother s side, is an introduction to any
        Message 3 of 18 , Jul 19 5:08 PM
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          Thanks!

          Yr. Obt. Svt.
          G E "Gerry" Mayers

          To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
          on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
          Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
          the Almighty God. --Anonymous
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Michael Peters" <colliszouave@...>
          To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:20 AM
          Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
          Road fight


          Gerry,

          Believe that Coppens was killed along the Hagerstown Pike.

          Mike Peters

          --- On Tue, 6/23/09, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:


          From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
          Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
          Road fight
          To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:55 AM


          Dear Michael,

          Thank you for that post; it was very helpful.

          Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road?

          Yr. Obt. Svt.
          G E "Gerry" Mayers






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        • bdowney@aotw.org
          One more perspective on this: Col. Coppen [sic] was killed almost immediately after getting fire, in the cornfield below the stone barn near bloody lane!
          Message 4 of 18 , Jul 19 5:41 PM
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            One more perspective on this:

            "Col. Coppen [sic] was killed almost immediately after getting fire, in
            the cornfield below the stone barn near bloody lane! Capt. Richard A.
            Waller then assumed command [of 8th Florida Inf] as senior Capt. and was
            also killed with the colors of the regiment draped over his shoulders,
            almost immediately afterward, the flagstaff having been shot in two, &
            the color bearer and color guard beig [sic] all either killed or
            wounded"...
            - postwar letter of former Capt (later Colonel) David Lang, 8th
            Florida, to E. A. Carman, Antietam Battlefield Commission. Transcribed
            by Mr. Studnicki at Civil War Florida
            (http://www.civilwarflorida.com/site/sources/letters/show_letter.php?letterREF=2).


            > -------- Original Message --------
            > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken Road
            > fight
            > From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
            > Date: Sun, July 19, 2009 8:08 pm
            > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
            >
            >
            > Thanks!
            >
            > Yr. Obt. Svt.
            > G E "Gerry" Mayers
            >
            > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
            > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
            > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
            > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "Michael Peters" <colliszouave@...>
            > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:20 AM
            > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
            > Road fight
            >
            >
            > Gerry,
            >
            > Believe that Coppens was killed along the Hagerstown Pike.
            >
            > Mike Peters
            >
            > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            > From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
            > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
            > Road fight
            > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:55 AM
            >
            >
            > Dear Michael,
            >
            > Thank you for that post; it was very helpful.
            >
            > Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road?
            >
            > Yr. Obt. Svt.
            > G E "Gerry" Mayers
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • G E Mayers
            Brian, So Coppens unit or brigade was part of the overall Sunken Road fight? Yr. Obt. Svt. G E Gerry Mayers To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage,
            Message 5 of 18 , Jul 19 5:47 PM
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              Brian,

              So Coppens' unit or brigade was part of the overall Sunken Road
              fight?

              Yr. Obt. Svt.
              G E "Gerry" Mayers

              To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
              on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
              Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
              the Almighty God. --Anonymous
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: <bdowney@...>
              To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:41 PM
              Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
              Road fight



              One more perspective on this:

              "Col. Coppen [sic] was killed almost immediately after getting
              fire, in
              the cornfield below the stone barn near bloody lane! Capt.
              Richard A.
              Waller then assumed command [of 8th Florida Inf] as senior Capt.
              and was
              also killed with the colors of the regiment draped over his
              shoulders,
              almost immediately afterward, the flagstaff having been shot in
              two, &
              the color bearer and color guard beig [sic] all either killed or
              wounded"...
              - postwar letter of former Capt (later Colonel) David Lang, 8th
              Florida, to E. A. Carman, Antietam Battlefield Commission.
              Transcribed
              by Mr. Studnicki at Civil War Florida
              (http://www.civilwarflorida.com/site/sources/letters/show_letter.php?letterREF=2).


              > -------- Original Message --------
              > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
              > Road
              > fight
              > From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
              > Date: Sun, July 19, 2009 8:08 pm
              > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
              >
              >
              > Thanks!
              >
              > Yr. Obt. Svt.
              > G E "Gerry" Mayers
              >
              > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
              > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
              > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction
              > from
              > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: "Michael Peters" <colliszouave@...>
              > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:20 AM
              > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
              > Road fight
              >
              >
              > Gerry,
              >
              > Believe that Coppens was killed along the Hagerstown Pike.
              >
              > Mike Peters
              >
              > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, G E Mayers <gerry1952@...> wrote:
              >
              >
              > From: G E Mayers <gerry1952@...>
              > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] re Murfin and description of Sunken
              > Road fight
              > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:55 AM
              >
              >
              > Dear Michael,
              >
              > Thank you for that post; it was very helpful.
              >
              > Was not Coppens mortally wounded or killed at the Sunken Road?
              >
              > Yr. Obt. Svt.
              > G E "Gerry" Mayers
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            • Brian Downey
              Yes. Georges Augustus Gaston De Coppens was in command of the 8th Florida, in Pryor s Brigade of Anderson s Division. He had been appointed to that Regiment
              Message 6 of 18 , Jul 19 6:25 PM
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                Yes. Georges Augustus Gaston De Coppens was in command of the 8th Florida, in Pryor's Brigade of Anderson's Division. He had been appointed to that Regiment from his own - the 1st Louisiana (Zouaves) Infantry Battalion - by Genl Pryor immediately before the battle due to a lack of field officers present with the 8th FL.

                The 8th FL advanced through Piper's orchard and cornfield toward the Sunken Road. Coppens looks to have been killed on that route.

                His Louisiana Zouaves were under command of his brother Marie Alfred Coppens at Sharpsburg. They fought in Starke's Brigade along the Hagerstown Pike at the Miller Cornfield that morning.

                --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> wrote:
                >
                > Brian,
                >
                > So Coppens' unit or brigade was part of the overall Sunken Road
                > fight?
                >
                > Yr. Obt. Svt.
                > G E "Gerry" Mayers
                >
              • G E Mayers
                Larry; What do the maps in the Armstrong s book about the Second Corps show for earlier in the Sunken Road action? Especially positions of the regiments in G B
                Message 7 of 18 , Oct 3, 2009
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                  Larry;

                  What do the maps in the Armstrong's book about the Second Corps
                  show for earlier in the Sunken Road action? Especially positions
                  of the regiments in G B Anderson's brigade?

                  Yr. Obt. Svt.
                  G E "Gerry" Mayers

                  To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
                  on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
                  Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
                  the Almighty God. --Anonymous
                • Thomas Clemens
                  G.B. Anderson s brigade was astride the Boonsboro Pike in the low ground between the ridge facing the bridge and Cemetery hill. He had skirmishers out on the
                  Message 8 of 18 , Oct 4, 2009
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                    G.B. Anderson's brigade was astride the Boonsboro Pike in the low ground between the ridge facing the bridge and Cemetery hill. He had skirmishers out on the crest of the ridge watching Middle Bridge. They moved to their left a bit to use the ravine for shelter from artillery, but didn't join Rodes' brigade in the lane until shortly before French's atack.


                    Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
                    Professor of History
                    Hagerstown Community College


                    >>> "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> 10/03/09 9:25 PM >>>
                    Larry;

                    What do the maps in the Armstrong's book about the Second Corps
                    show for earlier in the Sunken Road action? Especially positions
                    of the regiments in G B Anderson's brigade?

                    Yr. Obt. Svt.
                    G E "Gerry" Mayers

                    To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
                    on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
                    Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
                    the Almighty God. --Anonymous
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