Re: re Moxley Sorrel and September 16th (Night)
Sorrel said that he was "under thick trees" and in September the orchard trees would still be in full foliage. But I guess if Sorrel were with Longstreet at the Piper farm, he would not be very near the JDL.
But the location of the JDL south of the WW can work given what we have so far. Some of the references Wert uses are at the Antietam library under the Piper rubric so I can check them out.
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean Essig <d.essig@...> wrote:
> That and they knew there were a lot of Yankees to the north after the
> fighting on the 16th.
> Just south of the West Woods, west of the Pike? There was a reference
> to trees in the original Sorrel story, right?
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:20 PM, eighth_conn_inf wrote:
> > Certainly. We could make it more specific--looking at CC--how about
> > west of the Pike maybe closer to Bloody Lane to the southwest of
> > Hood's Division on the reverse side of a hill in a field? Just
> > trying to make a guess assuming they would want to be out of sight
> > of artillery. Of course they bedded down at night but they
> > certainly knew that the Union guns were firing from the east?
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- And we can't forget the raincoat Stonewall had on the night he was shot; it is at the VMI museum and a picture is on their website. It has the two bullet holes in the left sleeve.
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dave <gewehr@...> wrote:
> For what it's worth, even though it was very early in the war, when CSA
> Gen Felix Zollicoffer was killed in the battle of Mill Springs in KY on
> Jan 19, 1862, he was wearing either a "white rubber" or "light drab
> overcoat buttoned to the chin." Due to the rain and hanging smoke, he
> managed to ride right through the Federal lines unmolested and was only
> shot when he spoke to a US officer on his way back out. One of the
> accounts said that a US Lt. Col was wearing a similar coat, so nobody
> thought anything about it.
> Dave McGowan
> Thomas Clemens wrote:
> > To parse terms with you for a moment, officers purchase all of their
> > own clothing and equipment and although guidelines are published, a
> > certain lattitude is in what they wear and use. Lee's talma and
> > overalls were likely rubberized and privately purchased. Jackson was
> > wearing a rubberized coat when he was shot.
> > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> > Professor of History
> > Hagerstown Community College
> > >>> "Teej Smith" <teej@... <mailto:teej%40nc.rr.com>> 04/04/09
> > 1:01 PM >>>
> > Larry wrote:
> > Teej,
> > I see only Sorrel mentioning this--do you have other sources
> > mentioning raingear?
> > Sorry, no I don't. In fact the only other place I've "over-alls"
> > mentioned was in connection with a Union soldier at Ball's Bluff.
> > Sorrel wrote, "It had rained and he (Lee) was wearing a rubber poncho
> > and over-alls, his body and legs being thus well protected." I suppose
> > they could be the canvas wear you described in your message but that
> > wouldn't be much protection from the rain. But perhaps from the mud?
> > Whatever they were, they must have been loose fitting because later
> > Sorrel wrote that while reaching for his bridle, Lee "tripped in his
> > over-alls and fell forward, not prone, but catching on his hands."
> > Sorrel then went on to describe the nature of Lee's injuries and to
> > note word of his being hurt reached the Northern newspapers which went
> > into great detail as to the nature of his injury. Their report was Lee
> > had been seriously wounded and even went so far as to describe how Lee
> > received his wound. Would like to see that newspaper report. Sorrel
> > confirmed Lee was able to ride a little by the time of Antietam.
> > However, I have seen a letter written by Lee in April 1863 in which he
> > said he was still having problems with one of his hands.
> > Regards,
> > Teej
> > .
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