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Re: [TalkAntietam] The Orbats at Antietam

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  • G E Mayers
    Dear Bryn; Interesting but not really reflecting the extremely fluid nature of the Confederate forces that fought at Sharpsburg. IIRC by the time McLaws
    Message 1 of 68 , Feb 4, 2009
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      Dear Bryn;

      Interesting but not really reflecting the extremely fluid nature
      of the Confederate forces that fought at Sharpsburg.

      IIRC by the time McLaws' division arrives on field and is thrown
      into the fight, Jackson is pretty much out of action. While the
      West Woods area is technically "his" responsibility, again IIRC,
      it is R E Lee who orders McLaws to move to the West Words area
      where Sedgwick is making his attach, not Jackson.

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

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      From: "Bryn Monnery" <littlegreenmen.geo@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:42 AM
      Subject: [TalkAntietam] The Orbats at Antietam


      Hi,

      While doing some research on Antietam I've found that the
      commonly
      accepted orbats seem wrong, based on the orbats implemented a
      week
      later (Confederate, see Harsh) or a week earlier (Union,
      comfirmed
      from McClellans Report to the Secretary of War).

      Thus the organisations of the two armies at Antietam seem to be:

      Confederate

      Right Wing (Longstreet)
      DR Jones' Division
      Walker's Division (at the beginning, later attached to Jackson)
      Walton's Arty Bn
      Robertson's Cavalry Brigade

      Centre Wing (DH Hill)
      DH Hill's Division
      Longstreet's Division (RH Anderson)
      Cutt's Arty Bn
      HP Jones' Arty Bn

      Left Wing (Jackson)
      Jackson's Division
      Ewell's Division
      Hood's Division (attached from Longstreet)
      McLaws' Division (attached from DH Hill)
      SD Lee's Arty Bn
      Stuart with Fitz Lee's Brigade (the corps brigade) and Hampton's
      (DH
      Hill's Corps brigade, attached)

      AP Hill is still en route

      Union

      Right Wing (Burnside): 9th Corps and 5th Corps (only Sykes'
      Division
      initially, Morell's arrives later), Artillery Reserve is
      attached.

      Centre Wing (Franklin): 6th Corps (arrives very late in the day)
      and
      4th Corps (only one division, absent masking Harper's Ferry)

      Left Wing (Sumner): 1st, 2nd and 12th Corps, and Cavalry Division

      NB: The Wing structure *is* still in use at Antietam.

      Any thoughts?

      Bryn
    • DPowell334@AOL.COM
      Jackson has some real problems as a tactical commander, and he keeps making the same mistakes, which suggests that he wasn t very introspective about
      Message 68 of 68 , Feb 12, 2009
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        Jackson has some real problems as a tactical commander, and he keeps making
        the same mistakes, which suggests that he wasn't very introspective about
        developing those skills. None of his battles really display a flair for tactics,
        even Chancellorsville, where his choices of divisions in line instead of
        column greatly complicated his own attack.

        That said, he was quite effective at what we today would call the
        operational art.

        Dave Powell




        In a message dated 2/11/2009 3:21:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
        gerry1952@... writes:

        Gary Echelbarger is also a great source on the Valley Campaign of
        1862. Mildly said, Jackson got very lucky in the Valley in 1862..
        the only Federal commander to beat him, and do so pretty soundly,
        was James Shields. (Even there, actual field commander was Nathan
        Kimball.) That said, Jackson had, after Shields, mediocre Federal
        commanders to contend with....

        Yr. Obt. Svt.
        G E "Gerry" Mayers


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