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  • G E Mayers
    Steve, Thanks! I hope Brian is keeping an eye on this thread and can comment herein! Yr. Obt. Svt. G E Gerry Mayers To Be A Virginian, either by birth,
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      Steve,

      Thanks! I hope Brian is keeping an eye on this thread and can
      comment herein!

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
      the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "cowie_steve" <cowie_steve@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:05 PM
      Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Fw: Question regarding McElfresh
      Antietam maps


      Gerry,

      Yes, the documentation, or lack thereof, seems to support the
      theory
      that the Keplinger farm was a post-battle property. Perhaps Brian
      at
      the VC could shed some light on this. Also, I understand that the
      present day residents of the Piper farm are good contacts for
      Piper
      family history; perhaps they would know whether, and when, the
      Keplinger farmstead was carved out of Daniel Piper's 1845
      purchase of
      Ellwicks Dwelling.

      Steve

      --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Steve,
      >
      > Could the farmstead have been built after the war?
      >
      > I have Kathleen Ernst's book here and will try to find that
      > passage.
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction
      > from
      > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "cowie_steve" <cowie_steve@...>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:27 PM
      > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Fw: Question regarding McElfresh
      > Antietam maps
      >
      >
      > Gerry,
      >
      > The info below unfortunately does not answer your questions,
      > but
      > will
      > hopefully provide you with a lead. It's from Ernst's TATC, p.
      > 186:
      >
      > "Mr. John Keplinger, who lived near Bloody Lane, reputedly
      > gathered
      > and destroyed ninety-nine shells before the hundreth one
      > exploded. He
      > was 'terribly torn,' recalled the Newcomer daughter who help
      > Dr.
      > Biggs
      > attend him, and he died from his wounds."
      >
      > IIRC, Dr. Biggs practiced medicine in the Antietam Valley until
      > 1889,
      > so the above account could have happened years after the
      > battle.
      >
      > Ernst's source is John Philemon Smith, "Reminiscences of
      > Sharpsburg,"
      > Western Maryland Room, 1912, 76.
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Steve
      >
      > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Steve,
      > >
      > > Did his farmstead match as shown in McElfresh map? And why,
      > > if
      > > it
      > > was there during the battle, does it not show up on so many
      > > other
      > > maps of the battle?
      > >
      > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > >
      > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or
      > > even
      > > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in
      > > the
      > > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction
      > > from
      > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "cowie_steve" <cowie_steve@>
      > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:35 PM
      > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Fw: Question regarding McElfresh
      > > Antietam maps
      > >
      > >
      > > Gerry and Stephen,
      > >
      > > John Keplinger, per Ernst, resided near the Sunken Road and
      > > was
      > > killed
      > > by a shell blast after the battle while handling a projectile
      > > found on
      > > his land. I do not know how many years after the battle this
      > > accident
      > > occurred, but can check her source if you'd like.
      > >
      > > Best,
      > >
      > > Steve
      > >
      > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Recker <recker@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I was looking at the wrong spot. On the 1904 Cope map this
      > > > and
      > > > the
      > > > house to the east against the creek are both labeled
      > > > Newcomer.
      > > > On the
      > > > 1895 Hotchkiss map there is no farm at either spot. On the
      > > > 1904
      > > > Heth/Sterns map the house to the west is D. Myers and the
      > > > house
      > > > by the
      > > > creek is T. Myers. On the Gould map based on the 1860's
      > > > Michler
      > > > map,
      > > > they are D. Myers and J. Myer respectively.
      > > >
      > > > I don't know anything about the Myers family, but Carman
      > > > mentions them:
      > > > "Two companies were sent to the left, beyond the Snavely
      > > > buildings and
      > > > were deployed behind the stone and rail fences of the road
      > > > leading to
      > > > Myers' Ford, and at the foot of a bluff, upon which was a
      > > > large
      > > > cornfield, in which Munford had his cavalry skirmishers,
      > > > who
      > > > advancing
      > > > to the brow of the bluff, opened fire, and Eshleman's
      > > > Louisiana
      > > > battery, about 600 yards to the right and front dropped
      > > > shrapnel among
      > > > them."
      > > >
      > > > I don't think he mentions Keplinger. There were some
      > > > Keplingers
      > > > living
      > > > in Benevola (Beaver Creek) back them.
      > > >
      > > > Stephen
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On Tuesday, December 30, 2008, at 08:51 AM, G E Mayers
      > > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > Stephen,
      > > > >
      > > > > If that is indeed true, where did McElfresh get the
      > > > > information
      > > > > there was a small farmstead right where the combined
      > > > > Piper
      > > > > Farm
      > > > > Lane/Sunken Road joins the Boonsborough Turnpike?
      > > > >
      > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > > >
      > > > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption,
      > > > > or
      > > > > even
      > > > > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state
      > > > > in
      > > > > the
      > > > > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a
      > > > > benediction
      > > > > from
      > > > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > From: "Stephen Recker" <recker@>
      > > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:37 AM
      > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Fw: Question regarding
      > > > > McElfresh
      > > > > Antietam maps
      > > > >
      > > > > >I just took a look at the Jed Hotchkiss map and the
      > > > > >Heth/Sterns
      > > > > >map
      > > > > > made for the Antietam battlefield Board and neither
      > > > > > have
      > > > > > anything at
      > > > > > that corner.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Stephen
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > On Tuesday, December 30, 2008, at 12:35 AM, G E Mayers
      > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > >> Gang,
      > > > > >>
      > > > > >> Since I have not yet seen an answer to this question
      > > > > >> posted
      > > > > >> the
      > > > > >> other day, am forwarding it in hopes perhaps someone
      > > > > >> has
      > > > > >> not
      > > > > >> yet
      > > > > >> seen it. Any input here would be helpful, thanks!
      > > > > >>
      > > > > >> Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > > >> G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > > > >>
      > > > > >> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage,
      > > > > >> adoption,
      > > > > >> or
      > > > > >> even
      > > > > >> on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any
      > > > > >> state
      > > > > >> in
      > > > > >> the
      > > > > >> Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a
      > > > > >> benediction
      > > > > >> from
      > > > > >> the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > >> From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@>
      > > > > >> To: "Talk Antietam" <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > >> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:55 PM
      > > > > >> Subject: Question regarding McElfresh Antietam maps
      > > > > >>
      > > > > >>
      > > > > >>> Gang,
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> How accurate is the McElfresh watercolor map of
      > > > > >>> Antietam?
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> According to the portion of the map showing the
      > > > > >>> entire
      > > > > >>> Sunken
      > > > > >>> Road/Pipe Farm Road, there is a triangular little
      > > > > >>> farm
      > > > > >>> titled
      > > > > >>> Keplinger where the combined Sunken Road/Piper Farm
      > > > > >>> Road
      > > > > >>> meets
      > > > > >>> the Boonsborough Turnpike.
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> Yet, I have not noticed anything in my visits to that
      > > > > >>> general
      > > > > >>> area which might indicate the presence in 1862 of a
      > > > > >>> farmstead
      > > > > >>> there. Such a presence would throw off placement of
      > > > > >>> Anderson's
      > > > > >>> NC Brigade on 15 September. Harsh does not mention
      > > > > >>> the
      > > > > >>> Keplinger farmstead in TATF at all. All he says is
      > > > > >>> that
      > > > > >>> about
      > > > > >>> half way up the moderately steep grade to the top of
      > > > > >>> the
      > > > > >>> plateau where Sharpsburg lies from the
      > > > > >>> Antietam(Middle)
      > > > > >>> Bridge
      > > > > >>> is where D H Hill's division was turned and placed
      > > > > >>> into
      > > > > >>> two
      > > > > >>> battle lines fronting Antietam Creek.
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> Any comments???
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > > >>> G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > > > >>>
      > > > > >>> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage,
      > > > > >>> adoption,
      > > > > >>> or
      > > > > >>> even
      > > > > >>> on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any
      > > > > >>> state
      > > > > >>> in
      > > > > >>> the
      > > > > >>> Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a
      > > > > >>> benediction
      > > > > >>> from the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > > >>
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