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  • Jim Rosebrock
    Alabris, a book site has four copies. They are pricy. But I bought a copy earlier this week from them and it was in mint condition. Here is the link if you
    Message 1 of 16 , Mar 8, 2008
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      Alabris, a book site has four copies. They are pricy. But I bought a copy earlier this week from them and it was in mint condition. Here is the link if you would like to pursue.

      Jim Rosebrock


      http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?isbn=1882810538

      eighth_conn_inf <eighth_conn_inf@...> wrote:
      Dean,
      Best price I've found on other sites so far is $20 plus shipping,
      ISBN-13: 9781882810536. Savas shows not in stock:
      http://www.savaspublishing.com/CWR5-3.html

      Volume Five, No. 3:
      Antietam: The Maryland
      Campaign of 1862

      200pp. Maps, photos, index,
      paper. CORRECT 10 ISBN 1882810538

      See also: Part II, Vol. 6, No. 2)

      $12.99 SOLD OUT

      SOLD OUT--Let us know if you would like your name on a waiting list
      for this book. It might be reprinted.

      Antietam: The Maryland Campaign of 1862 Essays on Union and
      Confederate Leadership (ISBN: 1882810538)

      Bookseller: Apoonbooks
      (Ames, IA, U.S.A.)
      Bookseller Rating:
      Price: US$ 19.88
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      Book Description: Stackpole Books, Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania,
      U.S.A., 1997. Soft Cover. Book Condition: Very Good. No Jacket. 8vo -
      over 7¾" - 9¾" tall. Very nice, very clean softcover book. Very clean
      interior. Close to like new. AH. Bookseller Inventory # 000157

      Larry

      --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean Essig <dean_essig@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Well pooh... I put in a bid on the book and just got a
      > notice that the book was removed from e-bay because it
      > "violated e-bay policy" or some such.
      >
      > Very odd.
      >
      > --- eighth_conn_inf <eighth_conn_inf@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Dean,
      > >
      > > If you are still looking for the Civil War Regiments
      > > book, vol. 5,
      > > no. 3, there is one for sale on ebay Item number:
      > > 110231175913.
      > > Larry F.
      > >
      > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean Essig
      > > <dean_essig@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for the responses guys... I've been
      > > bedridden
      > > > with the flu for a week now, so work has not
      > > exactly
      > > > progressed at all.
      > > >
      > > > Dean
      > > >
      > > > --- Thomas Clemens <clemenst@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > Not really as the woods obscured their position
      > > and
      > > > > Civil War artillery very seldom used indirect
      > > fire.
      > > > > If they could not see it, they usually did not
      > > shoot
      > > > > at it.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
      > > > > Professor of History
      > > > > Hagerstown Community College
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > >>> "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@> 2/26/2008
      > > > > 10:27 AM >>>
      > > > > Dear Tom,
      > > > >
      > > > > Would it have made more sense for the ordnance
      > > > > trains of the
      > > > > First Corps to be more in the area of the Upper
      > > > > Bridge? IIRC,
      > > > > that would be well out of range of even the
      > > longest
      > > > > ANV artillery
      > > > > positions on the field.
      > > > >
      > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > > >
      > > > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage,
      > > > > adoption, or even
      > > > > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to
      > > any
      > > > > state in the
      > > > > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a
      > > > > benediction from
      > > > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@>
      > > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:56 AM
      > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] 1st and 12th Corps
      > > > > Trains
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Dean,
      > > > > I see you did not get any replies to this query.
      > > I
      > > > > don't know
      > > > > that the location of the supply trains is
      > > recorded
      > > > > anywhere, but
      > > > > your suppositions make sense. I think J.
      > > > > Pofenberger was too
      > > > > exposed, and the Middlekauf farm north of it was
      > > too
      > > > > far out on
      > > > > the flank. Sam Poffenberger, or even perhaps
      > > back
      > > > > at their
      > > > > bivouac at eh George Line farm would be logical.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
      > > > > Professor of History
      > > > > Hagerstown Community College
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > >>> "dean_essig" <dean_essig@> 2/17/2008
      > > > > 9:02 AM >>>
      > > > > Hi Everyone!
      > > > >
      > > > > Now that I'm satisfied I know what the deal is
      > > with
      > > > > the army
      > > > > ordinance trains on both
      > > > > sides, I've got two additional details to fill
      > > in...
      > > > >
      > > > > As far as I understand, 1st Corps brought its
      > > > > ordinance trains
      > > > > with it across the Antietam
      > > > > on the evening of the 16th. ("McClellan's War"
      > > was
      > > > > pretty
      > > > > explicit that orders specified that
      > > > > the trains were to cross over with the corps).
      > > > >
      > > > > Did 12th Corps do the same?
      > > > >
      > > > > And (in one or both cases as appropriate), is
      > > there
      > > > > any
      > > > > information as to _where_ these
      > > > > trains were posted by morning?
      > > > >
      > > > > Assuming 12th Corps brought theirs, the logical
      > > > > place would be in
      > > > > back of the East Woods
      > > > > probably near the M. Miller or S. Poffenberger
      > > > > farms.
      > > > >
      > > > > 1st Corps is tougher. J. Poffenberger makes
      > > sense
      > > > > based on the
      > > > > location of the corps that
      > > > > night, but is terribly exposed and forward. My
      > > guess
      > > > > would be the
      > > > > trains would not have
      > > > > accompanied the infantry into positions on the
      > > > > Hagerstown Pike,
      > > > > but would have been
      > > > > dropped off someplace further back... perhaps
      > > even
      > > > > back where the
      > > > > 12th Corps trains
      > > > > might have been.
      > > > >
      > > > > Any ideas?
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    • Dean Essig
      That s OK... I didn t see his post before ordering. A few $$ matters not as long as I get a copy. ;-) ... === message truncated ===
      Message 2 of 16 , Mar 8, 2008
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        That's OK... I didn't see his post before ordering. A
        few $$ matters not as long as I get a copy. ;-)


        --- eighth_conn_inf <eighth_conn_inf@...> wrote:

        > Dean,
        > Tom Shay found a much better price--sorry I didn't
        > find that one.
        > Larry
        > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean Essig
        > <dean_essig@...>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > Found the Apoonbooks copy and ordered it. Hope
        > this
        > > way works... thanks for all the help guys.
        > >
        > > Oh, I was able to get a copy of "Tyler to
        > Sharpsburg"
        > > through ILL and they _did_ photocopy it for me, so
        > now
        > > I have one. :-)
        > >
        > >
        > > --- eighth_conn_inf <eighth_conn_inf@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > > Dean,
        > > > Best price I've found on other sites so far is
        > $20
        > > > plus shipping,
        > > > ISBN-13: 9781882810536. Savas shows not in
        > stock:
        > > > http://www.savaspublishing.com/CWR5-3.html
        > > >
        > > > Volume Five, No. 3:
        > > > Antietam: The Maryland
        > > > Campaign of 1862
        > > >
        > > > 200pp. Maps, photos, index,
        > > > paper. CORRECT 10 ISBN 1882810538
        > > >
        > > > See also: Part II, Vol. 6, No. 2)
        > > >
        > > > $12.99 SOLD OUT
        > > >
        > > > SOLD OUT--Let us know if you would like your
        > name on
        > > > a waiting list
        > > > for this book. It might be reprinted.
        > > >
        > > > Antietam: The Maryland Campaign of 1862 Essays
        > on
        > > > Union and
        > > > Confederate Leadership (ISBN: 1882810538)
        > > >
        > > > Bookseller: Apoonbooks
        > > > (Ames, IA, U.S.A.)
        > > > Bookseller Rating:
        > > > Price: US$ 19.88
        > > > [Convert Currency]
        > > > Quantity: 1 Shipping within U.S.A.:
        > > > US$ 3.25
        > > > [Rates & Speeds]
        > > >
        > > > Book Description: Stackpole Books,
        > Mechanicsburg,
        > > > Pennsylvania,
        > > > U.S.A., 1997. Soft Cover. Book Condition: Very
        > Good.
        > > > No Jacket. 8vo -
        > > > over 7¾" - 9¾" tall. Very nice, very clean
        > softcover
        > > > book. Very clean
        > > > interior. Close to like new. AH. Bookseller
        > > > Inventory # 000157
        > > >
        > > > Larry
        > > >
        > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean Essig
        > > > <dean_essig@>
        > > > wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > Well pooh... I put in a bid on the book and
        > just
        > > > got a
        > > > > notice that the book was removed from e-bay
        > > > because it
        > > > > "violated e-bay policy" or some such.
        > > > >
        > > > > Very odd.
        > > > >
        > > > > --- eighth_conn_inf <eighth_conn_inf@> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > > Dean,
        > > > > >
        > > > > > If you are still looking for the Civil War
        > > > Regiments
        > > > > > book, vol. 5,
        > > > > > no. 3, there is one for sale on ebay Item
        > > > number:
        > > > > > 110231175913.
        > > > > > Larry F.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dean
        > Essig
        > > > > > <dean_essig@>
        > > > > > wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Thanks for the responses guys... I've been
        > > > > > bedridden
        > > > > > > with the flu for a week now, so work has
        > not
        > > > > > exactly
        > > > > > > progressed at all.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Dean
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > --- Thomas Clemens <clemenst@> wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Not really as the woods obscured their
        > > > position
        > > > > > and
        > > > > > > > Civil War artillery very seldom used
        > > > indirect
        > > > > > fire.
        > > > > > > > If they could not see it, they usually
        > did
        > > > not
        > > > > > shoot
        > > > > > > > at it.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
        > > > > > > > Professor of History
        > > > > > > > Hagerstown Community College
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > >>> "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@> 2/26/2008
        > > > > > > > 10:27 AM >>>
        > > > > > > > Dear Tom,
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Would it have made more sense for the
        > > > ordnance
        > > > > > > > trains of the
        > > > > > > > First Corps to be more in the area of
        > the
        > > > Upper
        > > > > > > > Bridge? IIRC,
        > > > > > > > that would be well out of range of even
        > the
        > > > > > longest
        > > > > > > > ANV artillery
        > > > > > > > positions on the field.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
        > > > > > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth,
        > > > marriage,
        > > > > > > > adoption, or even
        > > > > > > > on one's mother's side, is an
        > introduction
        > > > to
        > > > > > any
        > > > > > > > state in the
        > > > > > > > Union, a passport to any foreign
        > country,
        > > > and a
        > > > > > > > benediction from
        > > > > > > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
        > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > > > > > > From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@>
        > > > > > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:56 AM
        > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] 1st and 12th
        > > > Corps
        > > > > > > > Trains
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Dean,
        > > > > > > > I see you did not get any replies to
        > this
        > > > query.
        > > > > > I
        > > > > > > > don't know
        > > > > > > > that the location of the supply trains
        > is
        > > > > > recorded
        > > > > > > > anywhere, but
        > > > > > > > your suppositions make sense. I think
        > J.
        > > > > > > > Pofenberger was too
        > > > > > > > exposed, and the Middlekauf farm north
        > of it
        > > > was
        > > > > > too
        > > > > > > > far out on
        > > > > > > > the flank. Sam Poffenberger, or even
        > > > perhaps
        > > > > > back
        > > > > > > > at their
        > > > > > > > bivouac at eh George Line farm would be
        > > > logical.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        >
        === message truncated ===



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