Re: Muster Dates
Looks like "green" may require your imposed definition. If you define
it as a regiment with a majority of men who have never been in
combat, then you have a good list already. But as you point out
then "green" could also then mean a regiment with a majority of men
who have been together for several months and have drilled, etc.,
then that is a different kettle of fish (fresh fish). This would
include most of the heavy artillery units around DC which turned into
excellent cannon fodder during the Overland Campaign.
IMO, "green" means a regiment which never has been in combat. But
arguably a green regiment having drilled together and perhaps had
marksmanship training would likely be much more effective than
a "green" one which had none of that. I suppose you could assign a
number from 1 to 10, 1 being brand new with no experience in anything
to 10 being a regiment which has been in combat several times. This
sounds like a great masters thesis topic.
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "dean_essig" <dean_essig@...>
>source for the drilling
> Gallagher cites Ida V. Brown _Michigan in the Civil War_ as the
> information.category (along with the
> I take it you are arguing that they should fall into my "green"
> other limited service time regiments)? I rather wish they had moreservice at Antietam to
> add to their good performance at South Mountain to make theevaluation clearer.
>both green _and_
> It's possible for me to set up their ratings to account for being
> reasonably effective, but I have to be sure in any event. Thatwould make for a very
> interesting looking unit.<gwjchris@>
> Thank you for your interest!
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Bill and Glenna Jo Christen"
> wrote:the entire summer to
> > Dean,
> > Recruiting for the Seventeenth did started in May 1862, but took
> fill the ranks of each company. The companies from across the cametogether in August
> and during the last week of the month were mustered in at theDetroit Barracks.
> >mentions Pitman, and he
> > I believe that there is one sentence in Michigan in the War that
> may have been responsible for training (Gallahger's source?). Thecolonel of the Regiment,
> William Withington, had been a captain in the First MichiganInfantry (captured at First
> Manassas and not released until the summer of 1862). A few of theother company officers
> had seen service during the first year of the war.
> > Bill Christen
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- Dear Stephen,
One thing is clear...the Sunken Road slide, and I suspect the
others....are meant to be viewed in either a magic lantern or a
stereoscopic viewer of some sort.
This particular photo seems to be one of the more famed post view
views of the Sunken Road. The cabin in the distance is, IIRC,
that built for one of the freed slaves formerly owned by Mr
Piper. The cabin is on the edge of the Piper Farm property.
Yr. Obt. Svt.
G E "Gerry" Mayers
To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
the Almighty God. --Anonymous
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Recker" <recker@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Recher photo dates
>I am trying to date these photos/stereoviews taken by
> E.M. Recher.
> SUNKEN ROAD
> I believe the printing of this stereoview dates from 1880-1882.
> It is
> on a flat orange mount with rounded corners with no list on the
> It is in a series with views of Simon's dedication (1880). I
> have found
> the photo in three books with three different dates for the
> negative -
> 1872, 1877, and 1880. The log cabin is present in a 1904 view
> of the
> 130th PA veterans, so that does not help with the dating.