Looks like "green" may require your imposed definition. If you define
it as a regiment with a majority of men who have never been in
combat, then you have a good list already. But as you point out
then "green" could also then mean a regiment with a majority of men
who have been together for several months and have drilled, etc.,
then that is a different kettle of fish (fresh fish). This would
include most of the heavy artillery units around DC which turned into
excellent cannon fodder during the Overland Campaign.
IMO, "green" means a regiment which never has been in combat. But
arguably a green regiment having drilled together and perhaps had
marksmanship training would likely be much more effective than
a "green" one which had none of that. I suppose you could assign a
number from 1 to 10, 1 being brand new with no experience in anything
to 10 being a regiment which has been in combat several times. This
sounds like a great masters thesis topic.
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
, "dean_essig" <dean_essig@...>
> Gallagher cites Ida V. Brown _Michigan in the Civil War_ as the
source for the drilling
> I take it you are arguing that they should fall into my "green"
category (along with the
> other limited service time regiments)? I rather wish they had more
service at Antietam to
> add to their good performance at South Mountain to make the
> It's possible for me to set up their ratings to account for being
both green _and_
> reasonably effective, but I have to be sure in any event. That
would make for a very
> interesting looking unit.
> Thank you for your interest!
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Bill and Glenna Jo Christen"
> > Dean,
> > Recruiting for the Seventeenth did started in May 1862, but took
the entire summer to
> fill the ranks of each company. The companies from across the came
together in August
> and during the last week of the month were mustered in at the
> > I believe that there is one sentence in Michigan in the War that
mentions Pitman, and he
> may have been responsible for training (Gallahger's source?). The
colonel of the Regiment,
> William Withington, had been a captain in the First Michigan
Infantry (captured at First
> Manassas and not released until the summer of 1862). A few of the
other company officers
> had seen service during the first year of the war.
> > Bill Christen
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]