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Re: [TalkAntietam] George Otott Article in Savas re First Texas and Cornfield

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  • Tom Clemens
    All, We re not sure what date is the work day yet. Norm Feil and I just spent the better part of a week working front of Bloody Lane, the tree line is almost
    Message 1 of 8 , Dec 18, 2001
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      All,
      We're not sure what date is the work day yet. Norm Feil and I just spent the
      better part of a week working front of Bloody Lane, the tree line is almost
      gone. I'll let oyu know as soon as I can.
      Tom

      NJ Rebel wrote:

      > Todd;
      >
      > I saw your response to Tom Shay's comments. Perhaps we can try to
      > coordinate with any possible SHAF work days? Tom Clemens can
      > probably help with that.
      >
      > Tom C, any possibility of posting in here any upcoming important
      > SHAF related dates in enough time for folks to check their
      > schedules?
      >
      > Your humble servant,
      > Gerry Mayers
      > Co. B, "Tom Green Rifles",
      > Fourth Regiment, Texas Volunteer Infantry
      >
      > A Proud American by Birth, Southern by Choice!
      >
      > "I know of no fitter resting-place for a soldier than the field
      > on which he has nobly laid down his life." --General Robert
      > Edward Lee
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "TR Livesey" <tlivesey@...>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:19 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] George Otott Article in Savas re
      > First Texas and Cornfield
      >
      > > Gerry,
      > >
      > > Glad you found the work interesting. :)
      > >
      > > We should consider trying to do a muster this next sprint,
      > > even if only a handful of us can make it.
      > >
      > > TRL
      > >
      > > NJ Rebel wrote:
      > >
      > > > Todd;
      > > >
      > > > I took some time tonight to read the various webpages you had
      > put
      > > > together regarding what Campbell's Battery could see from
      > both a
      > > > terrain and LOS perspective. Quite illuminating and
      > informative
      > > > indeed. I did not realize that the math for even a single LOS
      > > > would be so complicated!
      > > >
      > > > You have made a tremendous, IMHO, contribution to the
      > > > understanding of the battle from a relatively small area of
      > the
      > > > field. I can only imagine how historians and other serious
      > > > students of the battle would benefit by more such analysis of
      > the
      > > > various parts of the field. It would be interesting indeed to
      > > > undertake a similar study based on the accounts, etc. from
      > the
      > > > participants of both sides in the Sunken Road and Forty Acre
      > > > Cornfield sectors. I would also wonder if a similar project
      > as
      > > > you undertook for the artillery/infantry action near Miller's
      > > > Cornfield would be possible for where Sumner was ambushed in
      > the
      > > > West Woods. The various folds of the terrain certainly do
      > make
      > > > LOS extremely difficult.
      > > >
      > > > Excellent work!
      > > >
      > > > Your humble servant,
      > > > Gerry Mayers
      > > > Co. B, "Tom Green Rifles",
      > > > Fourth Regiment, Texas Volunteer Infantry
      > > >
      > > > A Proud American by Birth, Southern by Choice!
      > > >
      > > > "I know of no fitter resting-place for a soldier than the
      > field
      > > > on which he has nobly laid down his life." --General
      > Robert
      > > > Edward Lee
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "TR Livesey" <tlivesey@...>
      > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:03 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] George Otott Article in Savas re
      > > > First Texas and Cornfield
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >>Gerry & group,
      > > >>
      > > >>Sorry it has taken awhile, but I finally put together some
      > > >>
      > > > material
      > > >
      > > >>on the LOS of Battery B's position. This is something a
      > little
      > > >>
      > > > new;
      > > >
      > > >>I have drawn maps that show the LOS from a particular point,
      > > >>
      > > > but
      > > >
      > > >>the idea of drawing a map that shows the LOS from an
      > aggregate
      > > >>set of points (e.g., the region occupied by an entire unit
      > such
      > > >>as a regiment or a battery) came to me as I read through your
      > > >>
      > > > post.
      > > >
      > > >>The results can be found under
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >
      > http://www.westwoodgalleries.com/antietam/topo_study/losbattb.htm
      > > > l
      > > >
      > > >>but you will probably want to first read through
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > > http://www.westwoodgalleries.com/antietam/topo_study/los.html
      > > >
      > > >>and
      > > >>
      > > >>
      > > >
      > http://www.westwoodgalleries.com/antietam/topo_study/losregion.ht
      > > > ml
      > > >
      > > >>which give a long-winded explanation of what I am babbling
      > > >>
      > > > about.
      > > >
      > > >>All of these pieces are part of my general analytical study
      > of
      > > >>
      > > > the
      > > >
      > > >>battlefield
      > > >>
      > > > (http://www.westwoodgalleries.com/antietam/topo_study)
      > > >
      > > >>which is currently in a DRAFT, UNPROOFED, and INCOMPLETE
      > state.
      > > >>I add bits and pieces from time to time, this being one of
      > > >>
      > > > them.
      > > >
      > > >>All is well here, except that I missed my resolution to
      > finally
      > > >>
      > > > make it
      > > >
      > > >>to the Heritage festival this year. Damn lousy economy. How
      > are
      > > >>
      > > > things
      > > >
      > > >>on your end?
      > > >>
      > > >>Regards,
      > > >> TRL
      > > >>
      > > >>NJ Rebel wrote:
      > > >>
      > > >> > Todd,
      > > >> >
      > > >> > I agree. The focus of George's article is the First
      > Texas
      > > >>
      > > > and the
      > > >
      > > >> > actions of the other units in the division commanded by
      > > >>
      > > > Hood at
      > > >
      > > >> > Antietam.
      > > >> >
      > > >> > However, due to the questions and comments regarding
      > > >>
      > > > Campbell's
      > > >
      > > >> > Battery B, Fourth US, do you have a map or series of
      > maps
      > > >>
      > > > which
      > > >
      > > >> > would show the LOS and other factors as seen from that
      > > >>
      > > > particular
      > > >
      > > >> > artillery position? Might help the current discussion,
      > > >> > particularly if you could show the LOS etc from both
      > > >>
      > > > Federal and
      > > >
      > > >> > Confederate perspectives vis a vis the Texas Brigade and
      > > >>
      > > > the
      > > >
      > > >> > various Federal units they contended against.
      > > >> >
      > > >> > Just a thought. Hope all is well with you my friend.
      > > >> >
      > > >> > Your humble servant,
      > > >> > Gerry Mayers
      > > >> > Co. B, "Tom Green Rifles",
      > > >> > Fourth Regiment, Texas Volunteer Infantry
      > > >> >
      > > >> > A Proud American by Birth, Southern by Choice!
      > > >> >
      > > >> > "I know of no fitter resting-place for a soldier than
      > the
      > > >>
      > > > field
      > > >
      > > >> > on which he has nobly laid down his life." --General
      > > >>
      > > > Robert
      > > >
      > > >> > Edward Lee
      > > >> >
      > > >> >
      > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
      > > >> > From: "TR Livesey" <tlivesey@...>
      > > >> > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:30 PM
      > > >> > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] George Otott Article in
      > Savas
      > > >>
      > > > re
      > > >
      > > >> > First Texas and Cornfield
      > > >> >
      > > >> >
      > > >> >
      > > >> >>David,
      > > >> >>
      > > >> >>Campbell's battery is mentioned a few times in the
      > > >>
      > > > article, but
      > > >
      > > >> >>
      > > >> > no
      > > >> >
      > > >> >>substantial information is given. Naturally, the piece
      > is
      > > >>
      > > > about
      > > >
      > > >> >>the 1 TX, that that is where the focus is. Definitly a
      > > >>
      > > > very
      > > >
      > > >> >>good read, if you have the chance.
      > > >> >>
      > > >> >>Regards,
      > > >> >> TR Livesey
      > > >> >> tlivesey@...
      > > >> >>
      > > >> >>the 1st TX the main subject
      > > >> >>David Lutton wrote:
      > > >> >>
      > > >> >>>Gerry,
      > > >> >>>
      > > >> >>>I am not familar with the article mentioned but as my
      > > >> >>>
      > > >> > interest in the battle
      > > >> >
      > > >> >>>centers around the action in the cornfield area perhaps
      > > >>
      > > > you
      > > >
      > > >> >>>
      > > >> > would elaborate
      > > >> >
      > > >> >>>on it? Any info that Battery B, 4thUS was perhaps
      > > >>
      > > > involved
      > > >
      > > >> >>>
      > > >> > in would be of
      > > >> >
      > > >> >>>the greatest interest to me.
      > > >> >>>
      > > >> >>>David Lutton
      > > >> >>>Hollidaysburg Pa
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